一切有关堕胎的事都是罪恶的 Everything involved in an abortion is sin,
它是错误，我真的相信这是邪恶 and it's wrong, I actually believe it's evil
所以，邪恶的东西没有价值 And so there's no value in things that are evil
当孩子的肢体被扯碎时，他甚至还活着 The child is ripped limb from limb while it's still alive,
他的心脏还在跳动 while his heart is still beating
我是一个母亲 I'm a mother
我觉得怀孕很美好，我爱我的孩子 I loved my pregnancies. I love my children
我现在是四个孩子的祖母 I'm now a grandmother of four
当一个女人怀孕时… When a woman becomes pregnant
她把自己身体的一部分给了另一个人 she loses a part of herself to someone else
德克萨斯州 国会议员
大多数人都期待这个经历，因为这很美好 Most of us want that, because it's beautiful
但并非每个人都这样 It is not that way for everyone
我们可以自以为是地坐在这里 We can sit here self-righteously
总是认为自己了解每一个人，但并非如此 and decide that we always know best for every person, but we do not
没有理由一遍又一遍地回到这里 There's no reason to come back here, session after session,
让堕胎变得越来越困难，让妇女们回到非法堕胎的阴影中 and make it more and more difficult and drive women back into the shadows of illegal abortions,
因为这就是后果，她们无力去阻止它发生 because it's exactly what this will do. They will not stop having them
她们总是堕胎，我们总是堕胎，妇女总是堕胎 They've always had abortions. We've always had abortions. Women always had abortions
而这将永远是我们的追求 And that will always be something that will be sought
如果你们想禁止堕胎 If you want to stop abortions,
那就帮我阻止意外怀孕吧 then help me stop unwanted pregnancies
修正案议程异议 Question occurs on the adoption of the amendment
议员克里克，赞成票 Representative Klick voting aye
议员奥利佛森，赞成票 Representative Oliverson voting aye
所有成员都投票了吗？ Have all members voted?
92票赞成，42票反对，修正案通过 There being 92 ayes and 42 nays, the amendment is adopted
一项对堕胎施加更多限制的法案已在立法机关获得通过… A bill has moved forward in the legislature, placing more restrictions on abortion…
他们正在努力达成… They're trying to get something in place…
德克萨斯州将出台新的堕胎规定 Texas will have new abortion regulations
所以，堕胎的机会越来越少 so that there's less and less opportunity to have an abortion,
也许，直到根本毫无选择 till, perhaps, there is no option at all
在“罗诉韦德案”之前，我还很年轻，当时堕胎是非法的 I was a young woman prior to Roe v. Wade, when abortion was illegal
我知道那段时期有多困难 I know the difficulties of that period of time
生孩子是你的主要职责吗？
这种倒退的想法让我无法忍受 The idea that we would go back to that was just unbearable to me
法案禁止了一种最常见的妊娠中期堕胎 The bill banned one of the most common types of second-trimester abortions
该法案禁止了一项特定程序 This bill prohibits one specific procedure
但我们从一开始就明确表示 But we made it very clear from the beginning
立法的重点必须是制止堕胎 that the legislative priority needs to be something that will stop abortions
立法的重点应该是揭露堕胎的真相 The legislative priority needs to be something that reveals the truth about abortion,
其首要任务是让我们更接近推翻“罗诉韦德案” and the legislative priority needs to be something that will get us closer to overturning Roe v. Wade
我的目标是，让堕胎在任何阶段都成为过去 My goal is to make abortion at any stage a thing of the paSt.
这个法案实际上保护了肯塔基州超过20周的人类生命 This bill actually protects human life beyond 20 weeks here in the Commonwealth of Kentucky
我是亲生命派，我坚信… I am pro-life, and I very strongly believe that
我们必须提倡生命，捍卫生命... we must promote life, defend life…
我的目标是，在密西西比州终止堕胎 My goal is to end abortion in Mississippi
在美国，堕胎的权利正在逐渐丧失 There is a steady chipping away of the right to abortion in America
这个国家的有些地方，就像“罗诉韦德案”从来没发生过 There are places in the country, it's as if Roe versus Wade never happened
今天，最高法院将堕胎合法化… The Supreme Court today legalized abortions
自2010年以来，国家已经通过了300项堕胎限制 Since 2010, 300 abortion restrictions have been passed in this country,
我想很多人都没有意识到，堕胎是多么受限 and I think many people are unaware of how restricted abortion has become
共和党是“亲生命党” The Republican Party's the party of life,
因为人们想要生命，不想要死亡 because people want life, they don't want death
我们想终止堕胎，如果我们要通过不断立法来实现 We want to end abortion. If we're gonna do it through continuous legislation,
那么我们就会一次又一次地反复进行，直到获胜 then we're gonna go back again and again and again, until we win
推翻罗诉韦德案
密苏里州
我的感觉是，当时密苏里州堕胎问题的氛围相当紧张… I think the feeling was that with the climate as pretty tense around the abortion issue in Missouri…
过去密苏里有几个地方是可以堕胎的 Missouri used to have several places where you could get an abortion,
但是在过去的十年里 but over the last decade,
越来越多的法律法规被通过… more and more laws and regulations have been passed…
计划生育协会证实，哥伦比亚诊所已经停止堕胎… Planned Parenthood confirmed the Columbia clinic has stopped performing abortions…
正因为如此，提供这种服务变得越来越难 and because of that, it becomes harder and harder to provide that care
周四是诊所接受妇女堕胎的最后一天 Thursday was the last day women could have an abortion at the clinic
现在密苏里州只有一家堕胎诊所 And now there's just one abortion clinic in Missouri
她是那个做堕胎手术的女士 She's the lady that does the abortions
圣路易斯计划生育处 The Planned Parenthood in Saint Louis
神爱世人… God does love you
考虑好你今天要做的事，请不要这么做 Please, think about what you're doing today and not do that
这些婴儿今天不想死，科琳 These babies don't want to die today, Colleen
一开始的时候 When I started out,
我认为堕胎只是惯例的一部分，你知道 I thought abortion would just be part of my practice; that, you know,
科琳•麦克尼古拉斯 妇科医生
就像人们需要子宫切除一样，人们需要堕胎 just like people need hysterectomies, people need abortions,
我会照顾那些需要帮助的病人 and I will take care of my patients who need those
但是我意识到，在保守的州，想堕胎非常困难 But I realize that in conservative states it can be very hard to get an abortion
所以我成了一名专注于堕胎服务的医生 And so I became a physician who really focuses on abortion care
我住在圣路易斯，但是… I live in Saint Louis, but
四周之中有三周我都要跑去其他地方 three out of four weeks, I'm traveling somewhere
周一周二可能在俄克拉荷马 And it might be Monday and Tuesday in Oklahoma,
周五周六回到圣路易斯 Friday and Saturday back to St. Louis
接下来周一在威奇托… Then the following Monday in Wichita,
这是我提供堕胎服务的四个地方之一 which is one of the four places where I provide abortions
威奇托 堪萨斯州
他们以杀人为生 They kill people for a living here
我们不能袖手旁观，听之任之 We cannot stand by and say, "Well, we're just gonna let that happen",
或者说这是女人的选择，等等 or it's the woman's choice and so on
我对我们正在做的事情很高兴，我将继续做下去，我们会赢 I'm happy with what we're doing, and I'm gonna continue doing it. And we're gonna win
我是特朗普的长期支持者，我们会获胜的 I'm a big-time Trump supporter, and we're gonna win this
时候已到，真相即将大白 It's…The time is coming. The truth is coming out, that's what's happening
好吧，已经有些人来问过我 Well, I've had these people out here ask me
诊所保安
我对堕胎本身的想法和意见是什么 what my thoughts and opinions of abortion itself is
我给了他们同样的答案 And I give 'em the same answer
“我认为”，我一直如此 "My opinion" I keep it that way
我来这的主要原因是她，在旗杆上飘着的国旗 The main reason I'm here is that girl, that flies up there on that flagpole
我最为反感这些人的是 What I have against these people more than anything
他们一直试图把自己的宗教强加给别人 is that they keep trying to push their religion up on someone else
而这个国家本该是有宗教自由的 in a nation that's supposed to have religious freedom
你知道，你可以想任何你想要的东西 You know, you can think whatever you want about it
但是，在美国 But, in America,
每四个妇女中会有一人有过堕胎的经历 one in four women will have an abortion in their life
所以对我来说，堕胎只是基本的医疗保健 So, to me, abortion is just basic health care
我们要终止妊娠，好吗？ We're gonna remove the pregnancy, okay?
当我想到这个事已经变得如此政治化… And when I think about how politicized this has become…
我想知道，这到底是怎么发生的？ I wonder, you know, well, how did this happen?
做过很多自我反省后，我真诚地认为 In all the soul-searching I have done, I sincerely feel
如果现在这样做了… that if they do it now…that they are only
就只是相当于一团组织脱离了我… disengaging from me…a kind of mass of tissue
在20世纪60年代早期，堕胎是非法的 In the early 1960s, abortion was illegal
有个叫雪莉•芬克班的女人 And there was a woman named Sherri Finkbine
她是凤凰台一个儿童电视节目的主持人 She was a children's television hostess in Phoenix
琳达•格林豪斯 堕胎史学家
雪莉小姐，她有四个孩子 Miss Sherri, she had four children,
她怀了一个非常想要的孩子 and she was pregnant with a much-wanted baby
但是她服用了一种叫做沙利多胺的药物 But she had taken this drug called thalidomide
关于沙利多胺的重大警告
沙利多胺首例致死事件，新生儿缺少四肢
她去看医生时问到，“这是怎么回事？” And she went to her doctor and said, "What about this?"
他说，“我建议你堕胎” And he said, "I recommend that you have an abortion"
“我可以在医院里为你安排一次堕胎” He said, "I can arrange an abortion for you in the hospital here"
医院做的一些所谓“治疗性堕胎” Hospitals did some what they called "therapeutic abortions"
只是为了挽救妇女的生命 only to save the life of women
但是如果医生想要帮助这个女人，他会把这个解释得很宽泛 But if the doctor wanted to help the woman out, he would interpret that very broadly
汤姆•戴维斯 牧师 基督联合教会
女人可能会说：“我要自杀了” The woman might say, "I'm gonna kill myself"
然后他会说，“她的生命危在旦夕” Then he could say, "Her life is at stake"
如果进行治疗性堕胎，通常是根据 If therapeutic abortion is done, it's usually done on the basis
患者的精神和情感障碍进行的 of the mental and emotional disturbance to the patient
女性必须在男性医生组成委员会面前，请求堕胎 Women had to go before a committee of male doctors to ask for an abortion
女性通常受到非常恶劣的对待，比如 And women were often treated very badly. Like,
“好吧，我们会为你堕胎，如果你能同意绝育的话” "Well, we'll do the abortion for you, but if you agree to be sterilized"
这是十分平常的程序 It was a common procedure
“我们不想收拾你的烂摊子”，他们会如此说 "We don't want to clean up your mess", they would say things like that
但如果你是一个富有的白人女性 But if you were a wealthy white woman,
你也许能找到办法得以手术 you could probably find a way to get access to the procedure,
这将被称为“治疗性堕胎” and it would be called a therapeutic abortion
雪莉在医院预约了堕胎 Sherri had an appointment at the hospital for the abortion
她觉得自己有义务让别人知道这件事 And she felt that she had an obligation to let this be known
这样其他处于同样处境的女性也会有同样的选择 so that other women in the same position would have the same option
而一旦这些话在当地报纸上传开了… But once the word kind of got out into the local newspaper, you know,
医院却说，“不，我们不能给你堕胎” the hospital said, "Oh, no, we can't give you an abortion"
她在国内找不到任何堕胎的地方，只能去了瑞典 She couldn't find a place for an abortion any place in the country. She had to go to Sweden
我只想做对自己和我的家庭都正确的事情 I just want to do what's right for myself and my family,
我并不会对那些极其反对此事的人感到抱歉 and I don't feel bitter towards people who oppose this religiously
我认为我们做的对，我想强调一下 I think we're doing the right thing. I'd like to really emphasize
我们不是在为别人做决定 We're not making a decision for other people
这对我们的家庭来说，在特殊情况下这是正确选择 This is right for our family and in our particular case
堕胎与安乐死的道德问题
这变成了一个大事件，上了生活杂志 This became a big story. It was in Life magazine
我记得当我小的时候，边读边想 I remember as a very young kid reading it and thinking,
“这些是什么东西？” "Hmm, what's this about?"
所以，它十分受人瞩目 So, it focused people's attention
堕胎 未出世的生命应该死吗？
如果你怀孕了，但不想生 If you were pregnant and did not want to be,
在五、六十年代，你很少有选择的余地 in the '50s and '60s, you had very few options
所以，如果你不想要一个孩子 So, if you didn't want to have a child,
要么你很幸运，有个肯帮助你的家庭医生 either you were lucky enough to have a family doctor who would help you,
葛劳利亚•斯泰纳姆 女权活动家
要么有足够的钱，去波多黎各或其他国家 or to have enough money to go to Puerto Rico or some other country,
在那里你可以堕胎 where you could get an abortion
大学毕业后，我怀孕了 After I graduated from college, I was pregnant
我当时在英国，不知该怎么办，十分害怕 and I was in England. I didn't know what to do and was terrified
然后我在伦敦的电话簿里找到了一个医生 And I found a doctor in the phone book in London
他说，“答应我两件事” And he said, "Promise me two things
“第一，别把我的名字告诉任何人” One, you will not tell anyone my name
“第二，你可以做你想做的事” And two, you will do what you want to do with your life"
直到今天我都很感激他 And I'm grateful to him to this day
我对堕胎一无所知 I didn't know anything about abortion
直到1966年，我成了斯基德莫尔学院的牧师 until I became the chaplain at Skidmore College in 1966
有一次我告诉我妻子，“你知道，1400个年轻女人 And I told my wife at one point, I said, "You know, 1,400 young women
她们能有什么问题？” What kind of problems could they have?"
她说，“你真是笨蛋，你会发现的” And she said, "You're a dope. You're gonna find out"
那些怀了孕但不想告诉家人的学生，就会来找我 Students who were pregnant, but didn't want to tell their families, would come to me
我把这个学生送到斯科纳特迪的一个医生那里 And I'd send the student to a doctor in Schenectady,
他一直认为堕胎是有必要的 who always found it necessary to do an abortion
这就是我学到的，我不仅仅是一个牧师 And that's how I learned that I wasn't just a chaplain
我明白了我是一名堕胎顾问 I learned I was an abortion counselor
还有许多大学牧师在全国各地做着同样的事 There were many other college chaplains doing the same thing around the country
这里是神职人员怀孕问题咨询服务中心 This is the Clergy Consultation Service on problem pregnancy
第一个公共组织是神职人员咨询服务 The first public organized group was the Clergy Consultation Service
包括19位新教牧师和两个犹太拉比 This was 19 Protestant ministers and two Jewish rabbis
本周的牧师咨询是… Clergymen counseling this week are Reverend…
我也是其中之一 And I was a part of that
我们不会问她们为什么要堕胎，这与我们无关 We would not ask them why they were having the abortion. That was not our business
但是大多数女人都想谈论这个话题，她们想告诉我为什么 But most of the women wanted to talk about it. They wanted to tell me why
所以对于一个年轻的男牧师，这是一次了解女性生活的教育 And so it was quite an education for a young male minister into the lives of women
我们进了这间公寓，那里又黑又暗 We went into this apartment, and it was dark, dingy
他道歉说，“我很抱歉，你必须像个罪犯一样被对待” He apologized. He said, "I'm sorry you have to be treated like a criminal"
这位24岁的女孩，在不到一小时前进行了非法堕胎 This 24-year-old girl had an illegal abortion less than an hour ago
据估计，管控堕胎的法律每年被违反100万次 The laws which govern abortion are broken an estimated one million times a year
尽管她们遭受了极大的侮辱 Even though they suffered great indignity,
富有的女性通常有一种安全的方法来结束意外怀孕 wealthy women often had a safe way of ending an unintended pregnancy
但在哈莱姆医院的临床培训期间 But during my clinical training at Harlem Hospital, I really was thruSt.
菲•沃特莱顿 计划生育协会前主席
我真的被推入了一个满是来自贫困家庭的妇女的环境 into an environment where women were from a very poor and deprived background
后来我发现，非洲裔美国妇女的贫困程度尤其严重 And then I saw that African-American women who were disproportionately poor
她们是当时限制性政策最直接的受害者 were the most directly hurt by the restrictive policies of the time
有一些非常悲惨的案例 There were some pretty sad cases of women attempting
妇女试图自己终止妊娠 to terminate their pregnancies themselves
事实令人震惊 The facts are astonishing
每年有35万名女性罹患并发症 350,000 women a year suffer complications
其中5000名妇女死亡 5,000 of these women die
有许多惊恐的妇女，她们使用衣架… There were many terrified women who were using coat hangers
和刀子，把自己摔下楼梯… and knives and throwing themselves down stairs
而去找非法堕胎医生通常也不安全 And going to an illegal abortion doctor was often unsafe
它只是一个衣架，一个普通的衣架 It was just a piece of hanger, an ordinary hanger
不是一整个的，只是一片 Not a whole one, Just a piece
当你堕胎时，你不得不花费700美元 When you have an abortion, you have to pay $700
通过这个隐秘的行动 to go through this cloak-and-dagger business
找一个愿意把衣架塞进你身体的家伙 to find you some guy who's willing to stick a hanger up you
我听说有个会议 I heard that there was a meeting
它是在村里的一个教堂举行的 It was being held in a church in the Village
我要说的是 What I'm talking about,
看看你的邻居，她八成堕过胎了 more than likely, look at your neighbor. She had an abortion
而且，你知道，女人只是站出来讲述她们的故事 And, you know, women just got up and told their stories
那些人给了我一笔交易： Those men offered me a deal:
如果我不做绝育，那就不能给我堕胎… I couldn't have an abortion if I wasn't sterilized…
在我的一生中，从来没有听到有女人说过 And I had never, ever in my life heard women telling the truth
这些事只发生在女人身上的真相 about something that only happened to women,
并且说，“事情不该是这样，我们必须改变它” and saying, "This doesn't have to be this way. We have to change it"
因为法律是为了让那个女人安分守己而制定的 'Cause the laws are made to keep that woman in her place
突然间，你知道，那是伟大的灵光乍现 And suddenly, you know, that was a great "aha" You know,
我想，“好吧，我有过这样的经历 I thought, "Okay, I had this experience
三分之一的美国女性有过这样的经历 One in three American women has had this experience
为什么，为什么它是非法的和危险的？” Why, why is it illegal and dangerous?"
这是揭开序幕的开始 That was kind of the beginning of the unraveling
你要隐瞒什么吗？ You got something to hide?
我不后悔我做了这件事，我还会再做的，我认为应该合法化 I'm not sorry I did it and I would do it again, and I think it should be legalized
问题是生育自由 The issue is reproductive freedom,
意味着有生孩子的权利，同样也有不生孩子的权利 and that means the right to have children, as well as the right not to have children
一些真正意义深远的事情正在发生 Something really profound is happening
主要是女人已经掌握了这个游戏 Mainly that women have caught onto the game
我们还没有完全了解它 We don't know it completely yet
你知道，我们还没有真正发现我们被压迫的全部结构 You know, we haven't really discovered the total anatomy of our oppression
以及他们对我们做了什么，但我们知道它正在发生 and of what they've been doing to us. But we do know that it's happening
我们已经开始了 We're on to it
自由选择！ Free choice!
这将是一场战斗，我们不会放弃 This is going to be a battle, and we will not give up
埃莉诺•霍尔姆斯•诺顿 国会议员
妇女实现堕胎的权利 on the right of a woman to achieve abortion
早期女权主义者…立即意识到 Early feminists… understood immediately
堕胎是女权主义和妇女权利的核心问题 that abortion was a central issue of feminism and to women's rights
- 我们要什么？- 自由选择！ - What do we want? - Free choice!
- 什么时候要？- 现在！ - When do you want it? - Now!
如果连自己的身体都不能控制，还能要求什么权利？ If you didn't have control over your own body, what kind of right could you ask for?
这是一个政治问题，国家意味着控制我们的身体 It is a political issue, and the state means to control our bodies
我们生育士兵，我们生育工人 We produce the soldiers, we produce the workers,
而他们害怕失去这种控制 and they fear the loss of that control
控制自己的身体，是民主的基础 It's the basis of democracy that you control your own body
这是等级制度和极权制度所没有的基础 And it's the basis of hierarchy and totalitarian regimes that you don't
安全的合法堕胎对我们来说是不可用的... Safe legal abortions are not available to our...
华盛顿 D.C.
好的，请坐下来，否则请离开... All right Will you please sit down or be removed...
不，我们不会坐下，你为什么不... No, we aren't gonna sit down. Why don't you...
一个女人怀孕了，她被当作罪犯对待 A woman gets pregnant and she's treated like a criminal
她不能堕胎 She can't get an abortion
不管她愿不愿意，她都必须生下那个孩子 She has to go through having that child, whether she wants it or not
在法院介入堕胎问题之前 Before the courts got involved in the abortion issue,
女性团体对改革施压
这个问题看起来好像会在政治上得到解决 it looked as if the matter would be settled in politics
今天，加州通过了一项新的自由堕胎法 California passed a new liberalized abortion law today
加州州长罗纳德•里根实际上签署了一项改革法案 California Governor Ronald Reagan actually signed a reform bill
罗纳德·里根 共和党人
加利弗尼亚 治疗性 堕胎法案
我认为有件事人们今天没有意识到 I think one thing that people don't realize today
共和党曾经是支持堕胎的政党 is that it was the Republican Party that was the pro-choice party
里根签署历史性的堕胎法案
有些共和党人执政的州，都通过了堕胎改革法案 And there were states with Republican governors who passed abortion reforms
然后纽约完全废除了19世纪的旧堕胎法 And then New York totally repealed the old 19th-century abortion law
…这是全国范围内最具影响力的堕胎控制法案之一 …one of the nation's most sweeping abortion control bills
纽约的法律规定 The New York law said
如果你愿意，你可以在孕期的两三个月内堕胎 you can have an abortion throughout the first two trimesters just if you wanted
你无需给出任何理由，这只是你的选择 You don't have to give a reason or anything. It's your choice
1970年7月1日 And on July 1st, 1970,
美国第一家合法堕胎诊所，是由纽约市的神职人员开设的 the first legal abortion clinic in America was opened by the clergy of New York City
这家诊所在13个月内每天能做一百多次堕胎手术 And that clinic did over a hundred abortions a day for 13 months,
直到其他诊所成立 until other clinics had formed
这是激进的第一步 This is the first radical step
这引起了天主教会的注意 And that set off the Catholic Church
我已把生与死摆在你面前 I have set before you life and death
特恩斯•库克 纽约 红衣主教
因此，选择生命吧 Therefore, choose life
未出生的孩子没有选择 The unborn child has no choice
在这个问题上，教堂给你提供了你所需要的帮助吗？ Does the Catholic Church give you as much help as you need in this issue?
天主教会在反对堕胎方面非常有策略 The Catholic Church was very strategic in its opposition to abortion
他们设立了“生命权利委员会” They set up the Right to Life committee,
红衣主教和教会大力反对 and the cardinal and the church pushed back vigorously
在纽约，合法堕胎已经夺去了近50万的无辜生命 Legal abortion in New York has already claimed almost a half million innocent lives
堕胎自由计划受到抨击
纽约州的堕胎法案在立法机构被提了出来 And the New York abortion law came up in the legislature
…打掉子宫里的人类胎儿，你应该感到恶心！ …to abort a human fetus in the womb, you oughta get sick to your stomach!
在纽约有很多天主教徒选民 There were a lot of Catholic voters in New York,
教会说：“我们反对堕胎” and the church was saying, "We're against abortion"
谭雅•梅利奇 纽约 共和党人
我们是一个有着犹太基督教传统的国家 Ours is a nation with a Judeo-Christian heritage
共和党控制了立法机构 Republicans were in control of the legislature
这些都不能证明堕胎是正当的 None of this justifies abortion
议会投票废除自由堕胎法
现在他们又在废除堕胎合法化 And now they were repealing legalized abortion
我认识的共和党人对税收和庞大的预算感到愤怒 The Republicans I knew got angry about taxes and how big the budget's gonna be
我认为共和党的传统 I think that the traditions of the Republican Party
是个人选择自己想要什么 are the traditions of an individual person to choose what he wishes,
只要不侵犯他人的利益 as long as it doesn't infringe upon other people
我们是相信个人自由的政党 We were the party that believed in individual liberty
尼尔森•洛克菲勒 共和党 官员
恭喜你 Congratulations
洛克菲勒州长是“亲选择”派的… Governor Rockefeller was pro-choice…
我们觉得，“为什么是国家来告诉妇女 And we felt, "Why should the state be telling women
她们是否可以堕胎？ ” whether or not they could have an abortion?"
州长否决废除堕胎是不正当的
洛克菲勒否决了该法案 Rockefeller vetoed the bill…
而堕胎在纽约是合法的 and abortion stayed legal in New York
1972年夏天，有一项盖洛普民意测验 There was a Gallup poll in the summer of 1972
要求人们回答这个问题 that asked people to answer the question,
“你认为堕胎应该是一个女人和她的医生之间的事吗？” "Do you believe that abortion should be a matter between a woman and her doctor?"
大约2/3的共和党人同意这个问题 Republicans by about two-thirds said yes to that question,
“堕胎应该是留给一个女人和她的医生之间的问题 "Abortion should be a matter left to a woman and her doctor,
而不是政府” Not the government"
我想我可能是这个国家最老的堕胎服务提供者了 I think I'm probably the oldest provider of abortion services in the country
我在1967年第一次堕胎 I did my first abortion in 1967
非法堕胎 Illegal abortion
神职人员协商会打电话来问我 The Clergy Consultation called, and they asked me,
“柯蒂斯，你会考虑做堕胎手术吗？” "Curtis, would you consider doing abortions?"
你有什么问题要和我谈吗？ Do you have any problems you want to discuss with me?
这就是它开始的地方 So, that's where it started
我想我可能会进监狱，可能会失去我的行医执照 And I thought I could go to prison, I could lose my medical license
我从小就信教 And I grew up religious
在高中的最后一年被任命为牧师 I became an ordained minister my senior year in high school
我认为基督教的基本教义是同情和服务 And I think the basic Christian teaching is compassion and service
柯蒂斯•博伊德 妇科医生
我的头脑，内心，我的手都说要这样做，我可以做出改变 My head and my heart and my hands said to do this. I can make a difference,
我要冒这个险 and I'm going take the risk
从那以后，我一直在做这项工作 I've done this work ever since
我现在80岁了 I'm now 80 years old
80年后，我决定 And after 80 years, I've decided
不再换工作了，这就是我的工作 I'm not moving on to another career. I think this is it
我是说，仍然有人需要我 I mean, I'm still needed
达拉斯 德克萨斯州
感谢您致电西南妇女外科中心 Thank you for calling the Southwestern Women's Surgery Center
我是艾丽西娅，需要帮助吗？ I'm Alicia. How may I help you?
好的，我明天下午有空 Okay. I have availability for tomorrow afternoon…
人们一直敦促我，要把平生所学和经历传递下去 I've been urged by people to pass on what I have learned and experienced
所以，这就是我正在做的，尽力去教导年轻医生 So, that's what I'm doing, trying to teach as many young doctors as I can
...仔细地详述... …dilate carefully…
我的理念是，提供堕胎服务的目的是 My philosophy is that the goal in providing abortions
帮助妇女为自己和自己的生活做出最佳决定 is to assist the woman in making the best decision she can for her and her life…
无论付出什么代价 in whatever that takes
堕胎争议中最重要的道德问题是 The most important moral question of the abortion debate is
子宫里的是什么？ what is in the womb?
它是一个人吗？它值得我们的人道关怀和保护吗？ Is it a person? Does it deserve our moral attention and protection or not?
这是最重要的问题 That is the most important question
在亲生命运动中，我们被激怒了，因为我们相信 In the pro-life movement, we're outraged, because we believe
选择性堕胎就是夺走了一个无辜的生命 that elective abortion is the taking of an innocent human life
约翰•西沟 德州 生命权利协会
这是不公正的行为，我们可以停止，而且需要停止 That is an act of injustice that we can stop and we need to stop
这是博伊德医生… - This is Doctor Boyd. - Dr. Boyd
如果你有问题，我们希望你能告诉我们 If you have questions, we want you to let us know
我们会好好照顾你并处理... And we'll take good care of you and make this
妇女继续怀孕，生了孩子 Women continue a pregnancy and have a baby,
因为当时他们想要个孩子 because they want a baby at that time
而她们堕胎，是因为她们有充分的理由 And they have an abortion because they don't want to be pregnant
自己不想在那个时候怀孕 at that time in their life for their own sufficient reasons
德克萨斯州要求，至少在堕胎前24小时到医院就诊 The state of Texas requires that you be seen at least 24 hours before your abortion
那么我要给你看这个超声波图 And then I'm gonna show you this sonogram
大概是五到六周吧？ That looks like between five and six weeks, okay?
超声波技术是亲生命运动最好的帮手之一 Sonogram technology is one of the best friends of the pro-life movement
这改变了一代人对女性子宫内发生的事情的看法 It is changing a generation's mind about what's going on in the womb of a woman
通常情况下，母亲会把超声波图贴在冰箱上 It is very common for expecting mothers to have sonograms on their fridge
让孩子们知道那是什么照片，那是他们的兄弟姐妹 for children to know what that picture is. That is their sibling
这是一个很好的工具，我们想要利用它 And so this was a great tool that we wanted to tap into and to use,
我们发现堕胎诊所已经在堕胎前使用了超声波技术 and we saw that abortion clinics were already using sonogram technology before an abortion
大家早上好，约翰•西沟和科技公司… Good morning, everybody. John Seago with tech…
超声波：子宫的窗口
我们非常谨慎地思考我们正在做什么 We think very deliberately about what are we doing that is
是在向挑战“罗诉韦德案”的根本基础迈进一步 taking a step forward to challenging the very foundations of Roe v. Wade
超声波检查的法案很重要 And the sonogram bill was an important one
因为我们一直在推动医生使用它 because we were pushing how much we can require a physician to do
好的，那么德州健康和安全准则第171章要求 All right. So Chapter 171 of the Texas Health and Safety Code require that
在你手术前24小时向你提供以下信息… I provide you with this information at least 24 hours prior to your procedure
我们希望超声波图不仅是让堕胎派看到 We wanted the sonogram not just to be performed, for the sake of the abortionist,
而且是为了让那个女人看到 but also to be displayed for the woman to see
这就是我们的全部目标 That was the whole goal
这有个模糊的东西 This little blurry thing right here
如果把注意力集中在这，你会看到一个点 If you focus kind of right there and you see a little flicker
那是心跳，心脏活动 That's the heartbeat. Cardiac activity
法律规定，医生必须向病人描述她在屏幕上看到的东西 The law says a doctor has to describe what she sees on the screen to the patient,
给她一个改变主意的机会 giving her a chance to change her mind,
看到她的错误，意识到她将要做什么 to see the error of her ways and realize what she's about to do
这就目的 That's the idea
这是国家强加给妇女的 This is the state imposing it upon the woman
她已经请了一位医生和她讨论这个问题，并帮她解决 She has engaged a doctor to discuss this with her and help her come to a resolution
她没有参与德克萨斯州的立法 She did not engage the legislature of the state of Texas
德克萨斯生命权组织坚信 It is the strong conviction of Texas Right to Life
立法机构应该努力阻止堕胎 that the legislature should work to stop abortions
在国会中，我们有能力引导对话 In the capitol, we have the capacity to direct the conversation
所有的堕胎都是不公正的暴力行为，应该被拒绝 All elective abortion is a violent act of injustice and should be rejected
如果你以共和党人的身份经营德克萨斯州… If you're running in Texas as a Republican
对子宫里的人类婴儿的不人道行为… An inhumane action to a human child in the womb
你必须同意亲生命的原则 …you have to claim to agree with pro-life principles
希德•米勒协助通过了强有力的立法以保护未出生者 Sid Miller helped pass powerful legislation to protect the unborn
谢谢你，上帝保佑 Thank you and God bless
你可以被选为农业专员 You can be elected as agriculture commissioner
你可以因为堕胎问题而当选本州首席财务官 You can be elected as the chief financial officer of our state because of abortion
唐纳·哈罗德 德州州代表
而不是因为你在数字方面的技能 Not because of your skills with numbers
我们必须通过一项最强有力的亲生命法案 We must pass one of the strongest pieces of pro-life legislation
而是因为你有能力通过立法来阻止堕胎 But because of your skill at getting legislation passed to obstruct access to abortion
这就是这个问题在德州的强大地位 That's how powerful this issue is in Texas
这就是亲生命组织变得如此强大的原因 That's how powerful pro-life advocacy groups have become
我签署了一项超声波法律 I signed a sonogram law
里克•佩里 政府官员 共和党
这样面对痛苦抉择的母亲们才能真正看到 so mothers facing that agonizing choice can actually see
我知道 And I know it
它有用 works
国家 生命权 公约
我们希望看到所有未出生的孩子受到保护，我们相信 We want to see all unborn children protected, and we believe that
卡罗尔•特拜斯 国家生命权 协会主席
我们一直在做的仍然是最好的方法 what we've been doing is still the best way to approach it
然而，有关堕胎的另一轮斗争正在… Yet another round in the abortion battle has been fought on
但我们的障碍一直是最高法院 But our roadblock has always been the Supreme Court
法院拒绝推翻“罗诉韦德案” The Court declined to overrule Roe versus Wade
我们将继续努力推翻它 We're gonna keep plugging away to overturn Roe v. Wade
因为我们相信这个国家不应该杀死自己的孩子 because we believe this country shouldn't be killing its babies
这是一个法律问题，一个宪法问题 Is it a legal question, a constitutional question,
一个医学问题，一个哲学问题 a medical question, a philosophical question,
一个宗教问题，亦或还是什么？ a religious question, or what is it?
全国各地还有其他病例 There had been other cases around the country
试图挑战当地的堕胎法 trying to challenge local abortion laws
但我们的案子是第一个到达美国最高法院的案件 But our case was the first to get to the US Supreme Court
重大犯罪
德克萨斯州的法律规定，堕胎是非法的 The law in Texas was that abortion was illegal,
我想终止妊娠，因为经济困难
我们有一个不想要孩子的孕妇… and we had a woman who was already pregnant who didn't want to be
她不想公开她的名字 and she didn't want her name public
所以我们想，那就用“约翰•杜/简•罗”（无名氏） So, we thought, "Well, John Doe, Jane Roe"
而亨利•韦德是达拉斯地区的检察官 And Henry Wade was the district attorney in Dallas
很明显，很多女性都受到了这个问题的影响 And it was clear that so many women were affected by this issue
萨拉·韦汀顿 律师
每周四有一架飞机离开达拉斯去加利福尼亚 There was a flight that left Dallas every Thursday going to California,
在那次航行中，通常会有10个或更多的女性去加州堕胎 and there were usually ten or a few more women on that flight going out to California for abortion
人们要去科罗拉多 People were going to Colorado
很多人都飞到纽约去了 And a lot of people were flying to New York
有成千上万的妇女曾经非法堕胎 And there were thousands of women who had had illegal abortion,
她们自己做了堕胎 who had done their own abortion
所以我们提出了一个集体诉讼 And so we filed a class action
说这是所有已怀孕或可能怀孕的 to say that this is a case for all women who are or might become pregnant
并希望选择堕胎的妇女的情况 and want the option of abortion
当时我26岁 I was 26
我是最高法院有史以来最年轻的律师 And I was the youngest person ever to argue a case in the Supreme Court
金发律师在法庭上捍卫堕胎
我们不是来提倡堕胎的 We are not here to advocate abortion
我们不要求法庭裁决堕胎是件好事 We do not ask this court to rule that abortion is good,
或是在任何特定情况下都可取 or desirable in any particular situation
我们来这里是为了倡导女性 We are here to advocate for the right of a woman to determine
是否有权决定，将继续或终止妊娠 whether or not she would continue or terminate a pregnancy
9位中老年男人对“罗诉韦德案”进行了辩论 Roe against Wade was argued to nine middle-aged-to-elderly men
这是一个保守的法庭 It was a conservative Court
这个法庭有4人是由尼克松任命的 It was a Court with four Nixon appointees
他们的出现，将使最高法院比以往任何时候都要保守 Their presence is expected to make the Court more conservative than at any time in recent memory
但在那个时候，堕胎并不是一个党派的问题 But abortion was not a partisan issue at that time
这是一个医学问题，一个社会问题 It was a medical problem, it was a social problem
基本的宪法问题是，未出生的胎儿是否是一个人，不是吗？ Basic constitutional question is whether or not an unborn fetus is a person, isn't it?
有一次一位法官对我说 At one point a justice had said to me,
“你认为人类的生命从何时开始？ ” "When do you believe human life begins?"
我说，好吧，法官大人 And I said, "Well, Your Honor,
我们没必要去讨论那个精准时刻 we did not try to say exactly what moment that was,
这是没有答案的 There is no one answer to that"
不同的宗教对这个问题有不同的答案 Different religions have different answers to that question,
但是没有法律标准说 but there is no legal standard that said,
“这一刻，胎儿就变成了人” "At this point the fetus becomes a human"
所以，问题是，谁来做这个决定？ So, the question is, who gets to make the decision?
是女人，还是政府？ Is it the woman, or is it the government?
我的立场一直是，它不是政府 And my position has always been it's not the government
晚上好，在一个里程碑式的裁决中 Good evening. In a landmark ruling,
最高法院今天将堕胎合法化 the Supreme Court today legalized abortion
法院以7比2的比例 The Court split seven to two
法官拜伦•怀特和威廉姆•伦奎斯特持反对意见 with Justices Byron White and William Rehnquist dissenting
这个决定使堕胎在很大程度上成为私事 The decision made abortion largely a private matter
并命令各州不得立法法律禁止堕胎 and ordered the states to make no laws forbidding it,
除非是在（妊娠期）最后几个月 except possibly during the final months
当罗案曝光时，每个人都感到震惊 When Roe went through, it was a shock to everyone
想要走到对立面去 To go so far over to the other side,
把一切都交到女人手里，实质上废除了法律 to put everything in the woman's hand and essentially dismantle the laws
如今在其他任何州，你都不能通过法律反对堕胎 Now, in any other state, you couldn't pass laws against abortion,
或者直接禁止堕胎 not forbidding it directly
这是一项宪法权利 It was a constitutional right
罗案最终判决 The Roe decision held
妇女有权在前两个孕程终止妊娠 that women have the right to terminate a pregnancy in the first two trimesters,
只有在怀孕晚期，州政府才有权禁止堕胎 and then it's only at the third trimester that the state has the right to prohibit abortion
除非是为了保护妇女的生命或健康 except when necessary to preserve a woman's life or health
当“罗诉韦德案”的判决宣布时 When the Roe v. Wade decision was handed down,
计划生育协会一直致力于妇女的生殖健康和避孕措施 Planned Parenthood had been devoted to women's reproductive health and access to contraception
地方分会不得不自问 And the local chapters had to ask themselves,
“既然合法了，我们现在是否要提供堕胎？” "Are we gonna provide abortions now that they are legal?"
这确实是一个反思的时刻，对组织来说非常艰难 It was really a moment of reflection that was very tough for the organization
菲•沃莱顿 计划生育协会 前主席
当它第一次成为合法的时候 When it first became legal,
计生联合会并不热衷于堕胎 Planned Parenthood was not keen on abortion
全国各地的分支机构 Various affiliates around the country,
很多人都不想提供堕胎，他们真的不想 a lot of them didn't want to do abortions. They really didn't
汤姆•戴维斯牧师 计生协会咨询处
委员会分成了两派 The board would be divided
一半的人愿意，另一半则不想 Half the people would want to, the other half wouldn't
医生检查了你的身体，一切正常后 Now, after the doctor's examined you and everything is all right,
他要做的第一件事是使用窥镜，这是… the first thing he's going to do is use the speculum. This is the…
但他们接连转向支持的一边 But one by one, they swung over to the active side
当他们这么做的时候，那些不喜欢堕胎的人会从董事会辞职 And when they did, the people who didn't like abortion would resign from the board
其他人会加入进来，而且现在已经承诺 and other people would come on, and it's committed now,
“罗诉韦德案”的判决已赋予了这项权利 committed to this right, given by the Roe v. Wade decision
没有任何法院的意见能够改变上帝的法律 No court opinion can change the law of God
必须探讨一切法律的可能性 Every legal possibility must be explored
以挑战美国最高法院的意见 to challenge the opinion of the United States Supreme Court
生命始于受孕 Life begins at conception
保护未出生的生命 Protect the life of the unborn
所以，只要没有纽约的法律，或者“罗诉韦德案” So, as long as there was no New York law or no Roe v. Wade,
那么女人真的，你知道，就只是法外之徒 the woman was really, you know, an outlaw
她四处奔走，试图走一些违法的途径 She was moving around, trying to get some procedure that was against the law
没有人真的想要阻止她 And nobody really tried to stop her very much
但是当法院说 But when the Court said,
“你有权做出这个决定，你有权利定义你的生活” "You have the right to make this decision. You have the right to define your life
不是宗教 Not religion"
这是不可接受的 That was unacceptable
滚出去！ Get out!
今天这里不会有任何谋杀 There won't be any murder here today
所以，基督教徒已经参与了各种反堕胎运动 So, the Catholics were already involved with various pro-life things
“拯救行动”训练片段
但“拯救行动”确实源于福音派 But for Operation Rescue, the genesis really was more evangelical
我们欢欣鼓舞，主啊，哈利路亚，荣耀归于上帝 We rejoice, Lord. Hallelujah. Glory to God
这个名字来自箴言第24章第11节 The name comes from Proverbs 24:11
托利•纽曼 “拯救行动”主席
圣经中说，“拯救那些被不公正地判处死刑的人” The Biblical verse that says, "Rescue those unjustly sentenced to die"
可以把其他人锁到这条管子上 Someone else can be hooked up to this pipe
今天这里不允许堕胎，今天不能有堕胎 There'll be no abortions in here today. No abortions in here today
所以我们的座右铭是 And so our motto was,
“我们是在拯救今天被判死刑的无辜儿童” "We're here to rescue the innocent child sentenced to die today"
人们都到街上去，还有好几百人… People out into the street. There's hundreds more…
这是要即刻行动的事 It was a very immediate thing
几乎是军事援救行动 Almost militaristic. Operation Rescue
我们是来拯救这些婴儿的 We're here to rescue these babies
法官，政客们 The judges, the politicians,
他们得到了信号，就像计生协会一样 they're getting the signal, as is Planned Parenthood
合法杀害儿童的日子已经屈指可数了，我们会赢的 Legalized child killing's days are numbered… We will win
兰道尔•泰瑞 “拯救行动”发起人
这是一种现象 This is a phenomenon
威奇托 堪萨斯州
这真的是我们基督信仰的额外工作 It was really an outworking of our Christian faith
所以，这是救援行动的中心 So, this is the epicenter of Operation Rescue
这曾经是一个堕胎诊所 This is a former abortion clinic
我们实际上占领了这个地方，这是一个堕胎工厂 We actually took this place that was an abortion mill
我们关闭了它，并改造它，现在变成我们的总部 We closed it down, we remodeled it, and now we've made it our headquarters
在我们关闭这个地方之前 Before we closed the place down,
产权线就在这条裂缝的正下方 the property line is right down on this crack
我们就站在这里 And we would stand right here
并说服那些来堕胎诊所的妇女们 and minister to the women that were going in this abortion clinic
如果越过这条线，我们就会被逮捕 If we stepped over the line, we'd be arrested
就像那样，被逮捕 Just like that, be arrested
救援行动组织动用了所有的资源 Operation Rescue has targeted Wichita with virtually all of its resources,
试图关闭威奇托市的三家堕胎诊所 attempting to close the city's three abortion clinics
多少孩子死在这里；堕胎是魔鬼的交易
成千上万的人因为乔治•蒂勒而来到威奇托 Thousands of people came to Wichita, and that's because of George Tiller
乔治•蒂勒的妇女保健服务诊所 George Tiller's Women's Health Care Services clinic
是美国实施晚期堕胎的三家诊所之一 is just one of three in the nation which perform late-term abortions
杀手蒂勒再次出击，屠杀妇女儿童
这个问题是全能的上帝的道义责任 The issue is a moral imperative from God Almighty
帕特•罗伯森 700俱乐部 基督教广播网
拯救那些被屠杀的人 to rescue those led to slaughter
威奇托亲生命派集会
这里的亲生命运动看起来比以往任何时候都要大 The pro-life movement here looks bigger than ever
联邦法警护送病人穿过抗议者进入诊所 Federal marshals were escorting patients through the protesters, into the clinic
“救援行动”确实导致了城市的停滞 Operation Rescue had really caused a shutdown in that city
我收到一条信息说 And I received a message saying that
菲尔•多纳休想让你在威奇托做个节目 Phil Donahue wants you to do a show in Wichita,
他想让你和兰德尔•特里一起参加 and he wants to do it with Randall Terry
所以，你知道，在这种情况下去威奇托 And so, you know, to go to Wichita in the midst of this,
我们就相当于深入龙潭虎穴 we were kind of going into the belly of the beaSt.
菲•沃莱顿，我这么跟你说 Faye Wattleton, I'm saying this to you
你已经背了你的种族 You have betrayed your race
当你想...当然了 When you think... Absolutely
堕胎对于黑人女性来说 To say that abortion for black women
菲利•唐纳休 秀
是在帮助她们杀死自己的后代... is somehow a favor to them to kill their offspring
像这样被描述为黑人种族灭绝 To be characterized as being engaged in black genocide is just what it is
这些煽动性的言辞旨在煽动争论 It's incendiary rhetoric that was designed to inflame the debate
- 让我说完，菲 - 我无需你来告诉我 - Let me finish, Faye. - I do not need youto tell me
我的生活和身体选择是什么，因为我就是黑人 what my choices are about my life and my body because I am a black person
计划生育协会每年有十万例流产 Planned Parenthood does a hundred thousand abortions a year
他们杀害的孩子比这个国家的任何组织都多 They've killed more children than any organization in the country
我认为这关乎女性在社会中的地位 I think this really is about women's status in society,
控制女性的行为，以及这种行为的限制 controlling women's behavior and the limits of that behavior
任何导致流产的避孕药 Any contraceptive that is an abortive agent,
比如宫内节育器或避孕药，我认为都该被禁止 such as the IUD or the pill, I believe should be banned
事实上，特里先生已经透露了 Mr. Terry has in fact revealed
营救行动的最终日程都是这种形式… - 不 the ultimate agenda of Operation Rescue and all of its type. - No
这种情绪和激情围绕着堕胎 The emotion and the hot emotion is around abortion
这是谋杀，菲尔，这是我们法律的目的 It's murder, Phil. That's what we have laws for
它引发了很多关于性的冲突，而且… It raises a lot of conflict around sexuality, and
毫无疑问，这是令人生畏的 without any question, it's formidable
…必须由妇女和她的医生来做这个决定 …must be decided by the woman and her physician,
而不是兰德尔•特里和其他人 and not by Randall Terry and other people trying to make that decision
但最终的决定必须是女性 But the ultimate decider here must remain women
这就是我们真正为之奋斗的目标 And that's what we're really fighting for
如果堕胎是非法的 If abortion is illegal,
那些实施堕胎的人会怎样？特里先生？ what happens to those who perform the abortion? Mr. Terry?
这么说吧，等这一切结束后，乔治•蒂勒医生会坐很久的牢 Let me say this. Dr. George Tiller's gonna do hard time when this is all over
他是一个杀人狂，他是人类的敌人 He is a mass murderer. He is an enemy of humanity
抗议者枪击医生
堕胎斗争已经发生了激烈的转变 The abortion battle has taken a violent turn
那是一连串的枪声… It was just one round after another...
乔治•蒂勒医生被一名抗议者枪击 Dr. George Tiller shot by a protester.
被枪击的医生返回工作岗位
我们对此不承担任何责任 We take no blame for this
这归咎于杀害儿童的行业 The blame rests with the child-killing industry
正是他们杀害了儿童，在人们心中滋生了挫败感 They're the ones that are killing children and breeding such frustration in people
我们不知道枪声从哪来，只听到不停的射击声… We didn't know where the gunshots was coming from…Just shootin' and shootin'
诊所枪击事件两死五伤
两名妇女在波士顿被杀 Two women were killed in Boston
医生遭遇致命枪击
一名医生在彭萨科拉被杀 A doctor was killed in Pensacola.
医生与随同于弗罗里达诊所被杀
然后一名医生和一名随行人员被杀 Then a doctor and an escort were killed
两枚炸弹在亚特兰大的一家堕胎诊所引爆 Two bombs rocked an abortion clinic in Atlanta
每一家堕胎诊所都是那些参与者的潜在目标 Every abortion clinic is a potential target for those who would do this
在那一刻，我认为，有一种引力从运动中产生 And at that point, I think, there was a gravity that came out of the movement
致命爆炸：堕胎咨询受伤 休班警察在阿拉巴马遇害
我们在98年又失去了一位医生 We lost another doctor in '98
在2009年，我们失去了蒂勒医生 And we lost Dr. Tiller in 2009
乔治•蒂勒医生在堪萨斯州威奇托的教堂被枪杀 Dr. George Tiller was shot dead at his church in Wichita, Kansas
一名男子在路德教堂冷血地枪杀了他 A man shot him in the Lutheran church,in cold blood
嫌疑犯已被拘留，现在警方… The suspect is in custody, and right now the police
你真的需要考虑，你从事这样的事 And you really have to think about this,that you would do this kind of thing
这真是太惊人了，真是太惊人了 That's really astonishing. That's just astonishing
在你信仰的经历中 Did there come a point in time where your faith,
你的宗教信仰曾在某个时刻改变过吗？ your religious beliefs changed?
斯科特•罗德 乔治•蒂勒谋杀案凶手
是的 Yes
我一直在看700俱乐部 I had been watching The 700 Club regularly
因为婴儿是按照全能的上帝的形象制造的 'Cause that baby is made in the image of God Almighty
700俱乐部 网络传教片段
我独自呆在起居室里… I was alone in my living room, and
那一天，我跪下来，接受了基督作为我的救主 that day I kneeled down and I did accept Christ as my savior at that time
宗教可以使人发疯，它真的可以 Religion can make people crazy. It really can
这可能是美妙的，但也可能是难以置信的不宽容 And it can be wonderful, but it can also be just incredibly intolerant
所有那些在诊所射杀别人的人，他们都是虔诚的教徒 All those people who shot these people at the clinics and so on, they were all religious
威奇托 堪萨斯州
蒂勒医生诊所
与这家诊所和蒂勒医生的关系，对我来说真的很重要 The tie that this clinic has to Dr. Tiller is really important to me
你知道，即使面对我们的一个从业者被暗杀的情况 You know, that even in the face of assassinating one of our providers,
科莲•麦克尼可斯 妇科医生
我们仍然会提供治疗，因为妇女仍然值得这种治疗 we were still gonna provide that care because women still deserve that care
我们会为你做检查，确保一切正常 And we do a checkup for you, make sure everything's okay
好的 Right
有很多创伤记忆是关于堕胎运动中发生的事 There's a lot of traumatic memory of things that have happened in the abortion movement,
在被轰炸的诊所中，医疗服务提供者成为了目标 of clinics being bombed, providers being targeted
你是个凶手，该让自己的灵魂下地狱 You are a killer, condemning your own soul to hell
你知道，你的家庭有可能成为目标 You know, the potential that your family will be targeted
约翰逊大夫在我们的城市里杀害儿童 Dr. Johnson has been killing children in our city
这些人可能会出现在你家，或者你孩子的学校 That people may show up at your home or at your kids' school
所有实际行医的困难，与对你和家人的安全威胁 And you layer all of this difficulty of actually practicing medicine
被联系在了一起 with the threat to safety or harm to you or your family,
对于很多人来说，这是个非常艰难的选择 it becomes a really difficult choice to make for many people
“反选择”运动的策略之一 And one of the strategies of the anti-choice movement
是羞辱人 is to shame people
他们杀了你的孩子，他们不会让你… They kill your baby. They won't let you
对那些提供堕胎服务的人，和堕了胎的人 People who provide abortions and people who have abortions
…你不能杀了你的孩子！ …You don't kill your baby!
如果你想控制一个人生育的时间和数量 If you think about controlling when and if and how many children somebody has,
这是父权制的绝对体现 it's sort of the absolute demonstration of patriarchy
因为控制人们的生育能力，会影响到 Because controlling people's fertility can affect
他们能得到什么样的教育，可以从事什么样的职业 what education they can get and what career they can have
以及他们在人生中能走多远 and sort of how far they can go in life
堕胎链中的薄弱环节 The weak link in the abortion chain
是实施实际堕胎的人 is the person doing the actual abortions
在美国，能实施堕胎手术的人越来越少 And there's fewer and fewer abortionists that are doing them here in the United States
他们退休了，或者改了行 And they're retiring and they're moving on
所以我们针对职业堕胎者的手段非常有效 And so we've been very effective in targeting particular abortionists
如果他们一个堕胎医生也没有，这地方就得关闭 If they don't have an abortionist, the place closes down
当堕胎诊所关闭的时候，婴儿就会得救 And when abortion clinics close, babies get saved
我们已经关闭了这些堕胎诊所，让它们停业 These are abortion clinics we've closed down, put them out of business
在圣地亚哥，海岸区，劳伦斯，堪萨斯州 This is in San Diego, Oceanside, Lawrence, Kansas
我喜欢把它看成是一堵墙 I like to look at it as a trophy wall
我们可能已经关闭了数百个堕胎诊所 We have probably closed down hundreds of abortion clinics,
这是我最引以为傲的一件事 and it's the one thing I'm most proud of
只有一家堕胎诊所的州
现在，有七个州只有一家提供堕胎服务的机构 Right now, there are seven states that have only one abortion provider,
这些州在妇女医疗保健方面受到限制 and those states have been under siege in terms of restrictions on women's health care
因此，我们一直在监控 So, we are constantly monitoring the patterns in the states
布里吉特·阿米莉 美国公民自由协会
各州限制妇女堕胎的立法模式 in terms of legislation that restricts women's access to abortion…
我们已经看到许多州采取措施，取消对堕胎服务提供者的资助 We've seen a lot of state moves to defund abortion providers
想想我们需要做些什么，以阻止立法通过 …thinking about what we need to do to block legislation from passing
我们得到了法律的初步支持 We got that law preliminarily enjoined
如果法案通过，我们会考虑向法院提出异议 And then if it does pass, we consider bringing a court challenge
所以，对于肯塔基的陷阱 So, for Kentucky TRAP
肯塔基州是一个很好的例子 And Kentucky is a perfect example
我们将尽我们所能做到最好 We are going to do the best that we can
马特•贝文 共和党 政府官员
迎接肯塔基州新的一天 to usher in a new day for Kentucky
在贝文州长上任之前 Before Governor Bevin took office,
肯塔基州有三家堕胎机构 there were three abortion providers in Kentucky
毫无疑问我绝对是亲生命派的 I'm unapologetically pro-life
他立即采取行动，逐一取缔堕胎诊所 And he sprung right into action to pick off abortion clinics one by one
州长马特•贝文已经下令 Governor Matt Bevin has ordered a Louisville
让路易斯维尔计划生育诊所立即停止堕胎 Planned Parenthood clinic to stop performing abortions immediately
这是贝文政府第二次就堕胎问题起诉一家诊所 For the second time, Bevin administration has sued a clinic over abortion
我们立即终止了他们的工作 And we gave them an immediate cease and desiSt.
我们说过，如有必要，我们会发出禁制令 We said that we would seek an injunction if necessary
共和党现在已经控制了国会和参议院 The Republicans now have control of both the House, the Senate
我们原有三家堕胎诊所，现在只剩一家 We had three abortion clinics. We are now down to one
现在贝文州长正试图关闭最后一家诊所 And now Governor Bevin is trying to shut down the last remaining clinic,
EMW妇女中心 EMW Women's Center
贝文政府对堕胎诊所的新规定 …Bevin administration's new rules for abortion clinics
在美国公民自由联盟，我们认为贝文州长正在做的事是违宪的 And at the ACLU, we think what Governor Bevin is doing is blatantly unconstitutional
如果法官站在马特•贝文州长一边 If a judge sides with Governor Matt Bevin,
肯塔基将成为全国唯一没有堕胎诊所的州 Kentucky will become the only state in the nation without an abortion clinic
肯塔基州的情况是前所未有的 The situation in Kentucky really is unprecedented
我们从来没见过这样的情况 We have never seen a situation
我们处在一个没有堕胎机构的州的边缘 where we have been on the cusp of a state that has no abortion provider
这对女性来说是非常可怕的 It's incredibly dire for women
关闭这个地方！贝文州长，把这个地方关了 Close this place down! Governor Bevin, close this place down
在肯塔基州最后一家堕胎诊所 It's exciting to see pro-life activity
看到亲生命运动是令人兴奋的 at the last abortion clinic in Kentucky,
因为我一直期待着我们成为无堕胎州的那一刻 because I have been looking so forward to the moment when we have an abortion-free state
让我们看看能不能把堕胎诊所的棺材钉上最后一颗钉子 And let's see if we can't put the final nail in the coffin of the abortion clinic there
我们肯塔基州尊重人类生命的神圣性… We in the Commonwealth of Kentucky respect the sanctity of human life
贝文州长的表现非常出色 And Governor Bevin's been fantastic
共和党人反对堕胎，支持十诫 Republicans stand against abortion, stand for the Ten Commandments,
他们代表着男人和女人的婚姻 and they stand for marriage between a man and a woman
而共和党已经成为了道德的政党 And the Republican Party has kind of become the party of morality
这是一场关乎美国灵魂和心灵的战争 And there's a war for the heart and soul of America
这场辩论是关于那些没有被征得同意的婴儿 This debate is about little babies who haven't given their consent,
现在是我们说适可而止的时候了 and it's about time we said enough is enough
没有人说国际计划生育协会 Nobody's saying that Planned Parenthood can't be
不能成为美国自愿堕胎的主要倡导者 the leading advocate of abortion-on-demand in America,
但我为什么要为此付钱呢？ but why do I have to pay for it?
华盛顿需要停止给他们拨款，向他们发出明确的信息 Washington needs to defund them, send a clear message
我今天来这里，是想要求我的参议员们 I come here today to ask my fellow senators
投票撤销计划生育的资金 to vote to defund Planned Parenthood
因为这种关于取消计划生育拨款的言论 Because this language and messaging around defunding Planned Parenthood
已经非常普遍 has been so pervasive,
我想普通民众相信 I think the general population believes
取消对计划生育的资金意味着 that defunding Planned Parenthood means
不为堕胎买单 not paying for abortions
但事实上，根据法律 But in fact, and by law,
联邦政府并没有用于支付堕胎的资金 no federal dollars go to pay for abortion
每年有250万患者依赖计划生育 Two and a half million patients depend on Planned Parenthood every single year
塞西尔•理查德斯 计划生育协会主席
为了避孕，为了检测和治疗性传播疾病… for birth control, for testing and treatment for sexually transmitted
我们不希望我们的税金流向那个组织 We don't want our tax dollars going to that organization
用于他们提供的任何服务 for any service that they provide
计划生育协会是一个大型的堕胎服务机构 Planned Parenthood is a mega abortion provider
全国大约三分之一的堕胎是由这个组织完成的 It's about a third of all abortions performed in this country are done by that one organization
我们只是把他们看成… We just see them as
婴儿杀手 um, as baby killers
请和我一起欢迎美国总统 Please join me in welcoming the President of the United States,
巴拉克•奥巴马 Barack Obama
说到堕胎问题 And when it comes to abortion,
它们很大程度上占据了民主党的议程 they pretty much get to control the agenda in the Democratic Party
计划生育协会不会扩展到任何地方 Planned Parenthood is not going anywhere
今天不会，明天也不会 It's not going anywhere today, it's not going anywhere tomorrow
这是众所周知的事实 And it's a known fact
共和党人将通过反堕胎法案 Republicans will pass pro-life legislation
我们投票撤销对计划生育的拨款 We voted to defund Planned Parenthood
共和党人取得了巨大的进展，不仅是在国会 Republicans made huge gains, not only in the House,
还有州长竞选和州立法的活动中… but in governors' races and state legislative campaigns
现在的州议员中我们的共和党人占多数 We now have Republican. majorities in state legislators
我相信有33位共和党州长 and I believe 33 Republican Governors
多年来我们一直有一个计划，我们一直遵循它 We've had a game plan for many years, we're following it,
我认为它将会结出硕果 and I think it's coming to fruition
对我们来说，为反堕胎事业挺身而出有何重要性？ What's so important for us to stand up for the cause of pro-life?
我取消了他们的假期，把他们带回来参加一个支持生命的特别会议 I cancelled their vacations and I brought them back for a pro-life special session
我相信我们会完成这项工作 And I'm convinced that we're going to get the job done
主要党派是共和党人 The general assembly is heavily Republican
密苏里州
他们在两院都占有三分之二的席位 They have a two-thirds majority in both Chambers
我在中西部的几个诊所提供堕胎服务 I provide abortion care in several clinics in the MidweSt.
诊所必须遵守层层加诸的规章制度 and the clinics have to be able to comply with the layers and layers and layers of regulations that have been put on them
国会正在通过一项立法 Legislation is on its way to the House
要求对堕胎诊所进行检查 that would require inspections of abortion clinics
并对堕胎手术进行其他新的限制 and enact other new restrictions on the procedure
现在我们面临着更多的立法，更多的规章制度 And now we're facing more legislation, more regulations,
新的法案正在出台，新的法律正在生效，以及… new bills being introduced, new laws going into effect, and
日拱一卒的基础上，我们又能做多少呢 on an almost day-to-day basis, what we can do might change
密苏里州的立法者制定了全国最长的堕胎等待期 Missouri lawmakers have enacted one of the nation's longest abortion waiting periods
格里茨州长召集了一次特别会议 Governor Greitens calls a special session
州议员又回来了... State lawmakers are back...
在这些法案和听证会中，有太多失真的事实 And there's so much factual inaccuracy in these bills and in hearings,
我觉得有人真的需要发出自己的声音 I felt that somebody really needs to be a voice
一个医学的声音，和一个科学的声音 A voice for medicine and a voice for science
好的，下午好 Okay. Good afternoon
我是妇产科医生科琳•麦克尼古拉斯，在圣路易斯执业 I'm Dr. Colleen McNicholas. I'm an OB-GYN. I practice in St. Louis
不应该有“亲生命”或“亲选择”的法律 There shouldn't be a pro-life or pro-choice law
医疗保健政策中应该有一项重要的、以科学为基础的法律 There should be a law in healthcare policy that is important and science-based
- 但每一次我作证… - 为什么你的观念 - But every single time I've testified… - Why is your opinion
和其他人如此不同？ so much different than theirs?
来自反堕胎组织的说客也将出庭作证 …lobbyists from the anti-choice group will also testify
- 这是一些书面证词… - 他们可以随便怎么说 - Here's some written testimony… - And they can say whatever they want
保护密苏里州妇女健康和安全的案例一个接一个 …case by case, to protect the health and safety of women in Missouri
是李“医生”吗？ Is it Dr. Lee?
不，参议员 No, Senator
所以，你不是医师，那是病理学家吗？ So, you're not a physician. Are you a pathologist?
完全不是 Not at all
这让人很恼火 Which is infuriating
尤其是在某些角度上，像是 Especially from sort of the standpoint of like
科学和证据，或者仅仅是事实 science and evidence and…just facts
圣路易斯的堕胎诊所在提交 The abortion clinic in St. Louis has not been complying with the law
并发症报告方面一直没有遵守法律 in terms of turning over complication reports
每年我们都会推出几十个反堕胎的法案 Every year we have dozens of pro-life bills introduced
议员们来找我说：“萨姆，我能做什么？” Lawmakers who come to me and say, "Sam, what can I do?"
萨姆•李 密苏里州 生命权立法竞选
我可以提出什么样的法案来减少堕胎？ "What type of bill can I introduce to reduce abortions?"
这是一场猫鼠游戏，一方亲生命，另一方亲选择 It's a bit of a cat and mouse game between the pro-life pro-choice side,
...没有在并发症报告中出现 …is not turning in complication reports
一项有关堕胎条例的法案再次在立法机关通过 Once again a bill on abortion regulations moved through the legislature
他们必须有一个并发症的计划 They have to have a complication plan
这就是我的感觉 This is how I feel
贾米拉•纳什 州议员
我们不是在医学领域，好吗？ Okay? We're not in the field of medicine here
安德鲁•科尼阁 州议员
政府是什么时候开始批准并发症计划的？ When did the government start approving complication plans?
我认为医生们会这样做 I thought the doctors or the physicians would do that
我们的抱怨是，这应该适用于所有诊所 Our complaint is that that should be for all clinics
如果堕胎设施必须遵守某些规定，那么 If abortion facilities have to comply with certain things, then
其他提供类似护理水平的诊所也应当如此 so too should other clinics that are providing similar levels of care
你还在为其他事情制定计划吗？ Are you putting plans together for anything else?
我的意思是，你可以吃很多的猪肉！ I mean, you could eat too much pork!
然而得了胆结石，你就得做手术 And have a gallstone and you'd have to go through surgery
为什么我们只是在个人想要堕胎的时候才这么做呢？ Why is it that we're just doing this when it comes to individuals wanting to have an abortion?
- 我的意思是… - 这听起来很荒谬 - Well, I mean it is… - It sounds so ridiculous
堕胎和其他任何医疗程序都不一样 Abortion is different than just any other medical procedure
我知道民主党人和计生组织想要这样对待它 I know that the Democrats and Planned Parenthood want to treat it that way
我知道他们想以这种方式谈论它 I know they want to talk about in that way
但是去街上问问普通人的话 But talk to your average person on the street
他们会告诉你，堕胎与结肠镜检查或拔牙是不同的 And they're going to tell you that abortion is not the same as having a colonoscopy or having your tooth pulled
它是独一无二的，与众不同的 It's something unique and different
没有其他的医疗程序 There is no other medical procedure, none,
没一个是像堕胎这样被立法的 not one, that is legislated in the way that abortion is
适可而止吧 Enough is enough
我已经准备好战斗到底，因为我厌倦了共和党 I'm ready to go down fighting, because I'm tired of the Republican Party
在女性选择权的问题上欺凌她们 bullying women when it comes to their right to choose
我来告诉你 I'll tell you what
我很自豪能和这么多密苏里州的生命派在一起 I am proud to be with so many people standing for life here in Missouri
埃里克•格雷顿斯 政府官员 共和党
你知道，从今天的角度来看 You know, from the perspective of today,
我认为重要的是要记住 I think it's important to remember that
堕胎并不是一直有党派之分 abortion was not always so partisan
共和党人也并非一直需要成为“亲生命派” and it wasn't always a requirement for the Republicans to be pro-life
事实上，这需要由非常聪明的… In fact, it took years of cultivation
我们担心有一百万个婴儿正在死去... We're concerned that a million babies are dying
…共和党战略家们多年来的培养 …by very smart Republican strategists
我们花了很多年才实现了这种政党的重新洗牌 It took years to bring about that kind of party realignment,
把堕胎作为一个社会文化问题 the placing of abortion front-and-center as
摆在我们政治的中心 a social, cultural issue in our politics
杰瑞•法维尔 道德多数派
我们关心的是道德问题，家庭的破裂 We're concerned about the moral problems, the breakdown of the family
我们是为了美国儿童谋福祉而来 We've come to seek the welfare of America's children
愿上帝保佑你们，祝你们有美好的一天 God bless you and have a great day
这是在20世纪80年代 And it was accomplished in the 1980s,
由社会、宗教和政治保守派组成的联盟完成的 by this coalition of social and religious and political conservatives
琳达•格林豪斯 堕胎史学家
这是随着罗纳德•里根的崛起而实现的 And it was done with the rise of Ronald Reagan
在1980年的选举中 The 1980 election is when abortion
堕胎成了一个政治问题，和典型的共和党要事 really becomes a political issue and particularly a Republican issue
我们有三重主要责任 We have a threefold primary responsibility
第一，让人们得到救赎，第二，让他们受洗 Number one, get people saved. Number two, get them baptized
第三，让他们投票 Number three, get them registered to vote
杰瑞•法维尔将福音派基督徒视为一场政治运动的基础 Jerry Falwell saw evangelical Christians as the basis for a political movement
法维尔想要组织福音派选民 Falwell wanted to organize evangelical voters,
兰道尔•巴莫 宗教史学家
在此之前，他们在政治上在政治上不活跃 who up until that time had not been politically active
在我看来，我们在十诫方面一点长进都没有 It's always seemed to me we haven't improved by one iota on the Ten Commandments
法维尔和宗教右翼认为 Falwell and the religious right identifies
罗纳德•里根作为一名候选人，将推动他们的议程 Ronald Reagan as a candidate who would push their agenda,
他们的社会保守议程 their socially conservative agenda
宗教美国正在觉醒 Religious America is awakening,
也许是时候了，为了我们的国家 perhaps just in time, for our country's sake
但是，让福音派领袖感兴趣的政治是 But what got evangelical leaders interested in politics
种族隔离是圣经上的吗？
圣经上关于种族隔离的观念 was this notion that the Bible mandated the separation of the races
一些所谓的种族隔离学校 And several so-called segregation academies
无论在什么地方，我们都有大量的种族混杂 我们有麻烦了
正在申请免税的资质 were applying for tax-exempt status
地区法院裁定，任何从事种族隔离或歧视的组织 And the district court ruled that any organization that engages in racial segregation, or discrimination,
鲍勃•琼斯 大学年鉴
都不能申请免税资质 cannot claim tax-exempt status
这就是催化剂 That was the catalySt.
促使宗教右翼变得在政治上活跃 for the religious right becoming politically active
我们正在进行一场战斗... We have a fight going on
保罗•威利克 政治策划
是关于对基督教学校免税问题的 on the question of tax exemptions for Christian schools
保罗•威利克是新右翼运动的主要战略家之一 Paul Weyrich was one of the chief strategists of the New Right movement
涉及的问题是宗教自由问题 Questions involved are religious liberty questions
这是一场宣称我们将通过偏见赢得总统选举的运动 It was a movement that said we are going to win the presidency through bigotry,
谭雅•麦里克 共和党委员 纽约
但我们不会直接说出来 but we are not going to come right out and say it
即将到来的选举对我们来说，是一个巨大的考验 This coming election's gonna be a big test for us
这次选举是为了让美国再次伟大 This election is to make America great again
我告诉过共和党人 I have told the Republicans
你要忠于自己深信的一套道德戒律 that you are loyal to a certain set of moral precepts in which you deeply believe
威里克认识到福音派选民的选举潜力 Weyrich recognized the electoral potential of evangelical voters,
但他需要一个可以更广泛地 but he needed a populist issue
吸引宗教选民的民粹主义议题 that would appeal more generally to religious voters
他很精明地意识到 And he was savvy enough to recognize that
公开的种族主义可能不会在大范围内奏效 overt racism probably wouldn't work on a wide scale
亲家庭运动和美国人民并不想 The pro-family movement and the American people do not want
把妇女解放的意识形态强加给我们所有人 the women's lib ideology forced upon all the rest of us
菲利斯•斯拉夫莱能够围绕道德问题动员选民 Phyllis Schlafly had been able to mobilize voters around moral issues
我当然反对堕胎 Well, I am certainly opposed to abortion,
因为我认为这是在杀死一个未出生的孩子 because I think it's killing an unborn child
随着总统选举开始成形... And as the presidential election begins to take shape
关键问题是什么？在我们的判断中 What are the key issues? In our judgment,
生命的权利，保护未出生的人 the right to life, protect the unborn
这些是关键问题 These are key issues
威里克说，实际上“我们发现了自身的问题 Weyrich says, in effect, "We found our issue
堕胎会是一个为我们所用政治问题” Abortion is going to work for us as a political issue"
数百万未出生的毫无抵抗力的婴儿... Millions of unborn defenseless babies
当你试图改变国家政治制度的动态时 When you are trying to change the dynamic of the political system in the country,
你必须通过情绪化的路线来解决 you have to do it through emotional issues
在我们华盛顿的演播室的是杰里•法维尔 In our Washington studios is Jerry Falwell
美国自1973年以来就违反了生命的尊严原则 America has violated the principle of the dignity of life since 1973
我们强烈支持生命，我们的第一要务... And we're very strongly pro-life. Our first order of business...
还有什么比母亲和婴儿更加感性化呢？ And what is more emotional than motherhood and babies?
从那时起，里根的竞选团队开始将堕胎视为一个政治问题 At that point the Reagan campaign begins to embrace abortion as a political issue
我相信... I believe that
当你终止怀孕的时候，你是在夺走一个人的生命 that when you interrupt the pregnancy, you are taking a human life
他们在1980年的选举中获胜 Which they ride through the 1980 election
有趣的是，一位全国领先的民意调查专家说 It's interesting. One of the nation's leading pollsters says
里根赢得了白人选民的选票 Reagan is winning the votes of the white electors,
他们是福音派传教士的追随者，所谓的“道德多数派” who are followers of the evangelical preachers,the so-called Moral Majority,
他们在选举中一直很活跃 who have been active in the election
这个团体为里根在选举中提供了明确的优势 This group is providing Reagan with his clear margin in the election
罗纳德•里根获得压倒性的胜利… Ronald Reagan's overwhelming victory
里根赢得了44个州，获得479张选票 Reagan won 44 states, with 479 electoral votes
他们着手改变共和党内部的动态 They set out to change the dynamic in the Republican party
所以他们提名了一个有用的人，他们成功了 So they nominated somebody that would be useful. And they succeeded
现在是“罗诉韦德案”的8年之后 It was now eight years after Roe versus Wade
结束堕胎的未来，似乎将属于共和党 And it seemed like the future of ending abortion was going to be in the Republican party
里根确实给了亲生命派团体很多希望 And Reagan really gave a lot of hope to the pro-life community
身为基督徒，会支持联邦政府为堕胎拨款吗？ Can a person be a Christian and support federal funding of abortion?
我相信，堕胎是在夺走人的生命 I believe in an abortion you are taking a human life
如果你相信这一点，那肯定是有宗教内涵的 If you believe that, it very definitely has a religious connotation
他只是重申了他对 He just reaffirmed his support of
亲生命运动所代表的一切的支持 everything the pro-life movement represents
毫无疑问他和我们站在一起 There's never been any question that he was with us
我们热爱生命！我们想要生命！ We love life! We want life!
在反堕胎团体的思想中 In the mind of the pro-life community,
堕胎权在法律上是不正常的 the right to abortion was an aberration in the law
因此，随着里根总统的当选 So, with the election of President Reagan,
我们认为，下一步将是尝试推翻“罗诉韦德案” we thought the next step would be to try to reverse Roe versus Wade
我们要生命！ We want life!
最高法院废除了公立学校的祷告和十诫 It is the Supreme Court that has abolished prayer and the Ten Commandments from the public schools
是最高法院的判决 It is Supreme Court decisions
迫使我们带上孩子乘坐公交车 that have brought upon us forced busing and put our children on buses
穿过城市把他们送去父母不想让他们去的学校 and send them across town to some school that their parents don't want them to go to
是最高法院的判决 It is Supreme Court decisions
导致了色情作品泛滥 that have unleashed the pornography
充斥我们的报摊和电视 that has invaded our newsstands and our television
是最高法院的判决 It is Supreme Court decisions
废除了死刑和对犯罪的威慑 that have abolished capital punishment and deterrents against crime
当然，还是最高法院的判决 And, of course, it is the Supreme Court decision
菲利斯·施拉夫利 政治策划
导致了我们这个时代的残忍悲剧 that has brought about this tragic evil of our time
最高法院在1973年做出的一项裁决 A Supreme Court decision, in 1973,
发明了一项新的权利，妇女可以杀死自己未出生的孩子 that invented this new right of a woman to kill her unborn baby
如果堕胎是一项宪法权利 If abortion is a constitutional right,
最重要的是要推翻“罗诉韦德案” the most important thing was to overturn Roe versus Wade
为了做到这一点，你必须改变法庭上的法官 In order to do that, you had to change the justices on the Court
没有别的办法 There's no other way
你需要尽可能快地重组最高法院 You need, as quickly as possible, a reconstituting of the Supreme Court
我们不认为现任的法官会改变观念 We just didn't think that the current justices would have changed their minds
我将向参议院提名 I will send to the Senate
亚利桑那州的桑德拉•戴•奥康纳 the nomination of Judge Sandra Day O'Connor, of Arizona
最高法院的第一位女性 The first woman on the Supreme Court,
桑德拉•戴•奥康纳法官 Judge Sandra Day O'Connor
她今天告诉参议院，她坚决反对堕胎 She told the Senate today that she is firmly opposed to abortion
在堕胎方面，我反对将其视为节育问题 In the area of abortion is that I am opposed to it as a matter of birth control
所以，里根总统任命了奥康纳 So, President Reagan appointed O'Connor,
然后任命了大法官斯卡利亚和肯尼迪大法官 then appointed Justice Scalia and Justice Kennedy
在亲生命派团体中，“罗诉韦德案”有希望被推翻 And in the pro-life community there was the hope that Roe versus Wade may get overturned
我们认为最高法院正朝着这个方向迈进 And we thought the Court was moving much closer in that direction
你是否有这种感觉 Are you getting the feeling that
某种运动正在进行，最终会侵蚀“罗诉韦德案”？ some sort of movement is under way that would ultimately erode Roe v. Wade?
不仅是有感觉，我也参与其中 I'm not only getting a feeling. I'm part of it
丹尼斯•荷安 美国生命联合会
- 它发生了？ - 它正在发生 - It's happened? - It's happening
美国生命联合会是其中主要参与者之一 The Americans United for Life is one of the main players in this
堕胎诊所的执照研讨
他们的策略是一次只提出一项反堕胎的限制 They have a strategy of one anti-abortion restriction at a time
州立法机关变成新的战场
这个策略可以通过州立法机关，也可能上到最高法院 which could pass state legislatures and maybe get up to the Supreme Court
并推翻罗案的判决 and overturn Roe against Wade
最高法院听证堕胎辩论
1989年的一起堕胎案件中 And it looked like it actually might happen
这种情况似乎真的会发生 in an abortion case in 1989
但奥康纳法官对“罗诉韦德案”的支持，让世界感到意外 But Justice O'Connor surprised the world by sustaining Roe against Wade
这让最高法院的保守派极为沮丧 And that was a matter of extreme frustration to the Court's conservatives
我认为奥康纳法官不想成为 I think Justice O'Connor didn't want to be
法庭上第一位，也是唯一一位剥夺宪法权利的女性 the first and lone woman on the Court taking away a settled constitutional right
凯瑟琳•科尔伯特 生育权律师
所以她支持“罗诉韦德案” And so she upheld Roe versus Wade
但是布莱克门法官做了个非常非常重要的声明 But Justice Blackmun made a very, very important statement,
他在法官席上读到说，“罗诉韦德案”正岌岌可危 and he read it from the bench and he said, "Roe versus Wade is hanging by a thread
我们处在一个非常脆弱的环境中 We are in a very tenuous circumstance
我们只差一票之遥，下一个案子就可以了” We're only one vote away. The next case could do it"
在那之后，政治形势真的发生了变化 And after that, the political situation really changed
就像广阔而平静的天空中的一千个光点 Like a thousand points of light in a broad and peaceful sky
当老布什成为总统的时候 When H.W. became president,
我们以为他会是一个亲选择派的总统 we thought that he would be a pro-choice president
堕胎分歧，在我们党内，我们为那些持一种观点的人留出了空间 Abortion divides. We have room in our party for people that feel one way,
有亲生命派的，也有亲选择派的 pro-life, or pro-choice
这是存在分歧的问题 This is an issue that divides
当他是国会议员时 When he was a congressman,
他一直被认为是计划生育的大力支持者 he had been known as a big supporter of family planning,
以至于他的一些同事称他为“安全套” to the point that some of his colleagues called him "Rubbers"
你赞成反堕胎的宪法修正案吗？ Do you favor a constitutional amendment against abortion?
我反对这样的修正案 I oppose such an amendment
第35届共和党全国代表大会 The 35th Republican National Convention
本周最大的挑战是什么？ What's the big challenge here this week?
我真的不知道，主要是…堕胎吧 I really don't know. I... Abortion, mostly
人们真的需要明白 People really need to understand that
亲生命派现在是支撑乔治•布什的中坚力量 the pro-lifers are now the backbone that is holding up George Bush
乔治•布什必须采取强有力的亲家庭立场 George Bush has to take a strong pro-family position
坦率地说，这意味着在堕胎问题上立场坚定 And frankly, that means a strong position on abortion
布什转头反对亲选择派 And Bush turned against choice,
他的立场要比… and he took on a position that was stronger than
比里根的以往任何时候都要强硬 than anything Reagan ever did
我认为堕胎是错误的 I believe that abortion is wrong
我认为我们应该努力推翻“罗诉韦德案” I believe that we should work to overturn Roe vs. Wade
我认为，各州应该有权禁止堕胎 And I believe that states should have the right to prohibit abortions
我不做很多保证，但我会给你做一个 I don't make many guarantees, but I'll make you one
宾夕法尼亚州将是联邦第一个 Pennsylvania will be the first state in the Union
彻底结束这一噩梦的州，并禁止堕胎 to end the nightmare once and for all and to outlaw abortion
最高法院第91-744号案件 Supreme Court case number 91-744
宾夕法尼亚州东南计划生育协会诉凯西案 Planned Parenthood of Southeast Pennsylvania versus Casey
计划生育协会诉凯西案 Planned Parenthood versus Casey
于1992年上诉到最高法院 That went up to the Supreme Court in 1992
是美国最严格的堕胎法之一 …one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the nation
很多亲生命派人士认为这将会推翻“罗诉韦德案” And a lot of pro-life people thought this was going to be the case that would overturn Roe versus Wade
布什政府要求最高法院 The Bush administration asked the Supreme Court
支持进一步限制妇女堕胎的权利 to support further limitations on a woman's right to have an abortion
布什总统尽其所能 President Bush has done all he can do
以确保我的论点可能会被置若罔闻 to ensure that my arguments are likely to fall on deaf ears
我完全相信我们会输 I was totally convinced that we were going to lose
因为他在法庭上塞满了 For he has packed the Court with justices
对妇女选择堕胎的基本权利持敌对态度的法官们 who are hostile to a woman's fundamental right to choose abortion
堕胎诉讼很像“芝麻街”（少儿节目） Abortion litigation is a lot like Sesame Street
你得学会数数 You got to learn to count
唯一重要的数字是5 And the only number that's important is five
最高法院有5票吗？ Are there five votes on the Supreme Court?
5票将会推翻罗案 Five votes that would overturn Roe
他是这个职位的最佳人选 He is the best person for this position
总统提名克拉伦斯•托马斯为最高法院大法官 The president nominated Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court
我认为他会是否决罗案的第5票 And I thought he would be the fifth vote to overrule Roe
我记得，法庭上有一种沉默是显而易见的 And I remember there was a silence in the courtroom that was palpable
科尔伯特女士 Ms. Kolbert
法官大人，希望法庭满意留意 Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court
我们的宪法赋予政府的权力 Whether our Constitution endows government with the power to
是强迫妇女继续怀孕，还是违背其意愿终止妊娠 force a woman to continue or to end a pregnancy against her will
这是本案的核心问题 is the central question in this case
然后美国副检察长站起来争辩说 And then the Solicitor General of the United States stood up and argued
“罗诉韦德案”应该被推翻 that Roe versus Wade ought to be overturned
…国家确实对潜在的生命 …the State does have a compelling interest in the potential life,
对胎儿的生命有着强烈兴趣，这种兴趣贯穿整个怀孕期 in fetal life, and that interest runs throughout pregnancy
但是，我希望法院理解 But I wanted the Court to understand the implications
改变一项“对妇女具有保护意义”的标准的含义 of changing a standard that was very protective for women
本庭已经认识到，自主权、身体完整性 This Court has recognized that the rights of autonomy, bodily integrity,
和平等权，是我们自由意志的核心 and equality are central to our notions of ordered liberty
罗案是这些利益的核心 Roe lies at the heart of those interests
因为，归根结底 Because, ultimately,
堕胎与妇女是否应该接受特殊的医疗程序无关 abortion is not about whether or not women should have particular medical procedures
它是关于平等的 It's about equality
这是关于生命的观点，关于应该是谁来做重要决定 It's about a view of life, about who should make important decisions
很少有人会知道 It's very rare that you know the date
最高法院将要判决的日期 that the Supreme Court is going to issue a decision
你知道这个案子将会判决，但是不知道什么时候 You know that the case will be decided, but you don't know when
但这一次我们知道什么时候，因为 But this time we knew when, because
他们听到的所有其他案件都已经判决了 every other case that they heard that term had already been decided
我们现在在最高法院外等候宣判结果 We're waiting outside the Supreme Court now for the announcement of the Court's decision
所以，外面有大批媒体等着 So, there were media trucks parked outside
每个人都准备好了，等待着对罗案的判决 Everybody was ready and waiting for the overturning of Roe
发布91-45号命令 Release 91-45 Standing Orders
法院书记官递给我一份判决书的副本 The clerk of the court handed me a copy of the decision
坦白说，我在很多方面都很困惑 And frankly I was confused in many respects
你知道，这是一个5、60页的意见，很复杂 You know, it's a 50, 60 page opinion. It's complicated
你必须阅读并理解它 You have to read it and understand it
与此同时，我被派去 At the same time, I'm shepherded out
和美国媒体谈论刚刚发生的事情 to talk to American media about what just happened
我是凯瑟琳•科尔伯特，我是宾夕法尼亚州 I am Kathryn Kolbert. I am counsel of record on behalf of
计划生育协会和其他堕胎诊所的法律顾问 Planned Parenthood and the other abortion clinics in Pennsylvania
这是个非常模棱两可的判决 It was a very ambiguous decision
三名共和党任命的法官聚在一起 Three Republican-appointed justices had gotten together,
他们决定，与其推翻罗案的判决 and they decided that rather than overturn Roe against Wade,
不如用他们称之为“不当负担标准”重新修订它 they were going to reformulate it with what they called the undue burden standard
因此，法院维持了堕胎的权利 So the Court upheld the right to abortion
但是新的标准意味着，各州可以采取措施 But the new standard meant that states can undertake to
说服妇女怀孕到足月 persuade a woman to carry a pregnancy to term,
但是他们不能阻止妇女选择堕胎 but they cannot prevent a woman from choosing abortion
在“罗诉韦德案”中 Under Roe versus Wade,
大多数的堕胎限制都是违宪的 most abortion restrictions were unconstitutional
在凯西案中，最高法院基本上认为 In Casey, the Court basically said that
各州在限制堕胎方面，拥有比罗案判决更多的自由 states had the latitude to restrict abortion in more ways than under Roe
多种多样的限制，等待期，知情同意 Many, many kinds of restrictions, waiting periods, informed consent
在罗案判决中被发现的违宪行为，已得到了法院的证实 Things found unconstitutional under Roe have been validated by this Court
因此，我们的处境要比过去糟得多 And therefore we are much worse off than we have been in the paSt.
那时候，你知道，我想这真的很可怕 At the time, I thought, you know, this is really horrible
在女性的道路上设置障碍… …to place roadblocks in the path of women
但是，不管负担标准给我们带来了什么问题 But whatever problems the undue burden standard gave us,
它仍然比完全禁止堕胎要好 it was still preferable than a total outlaw of abortion
对于需要医疗手术的女性来说 For a woman in need of a medical procedure,
一个很大的区别是，不得不接受手术 there's a big difference between having to jump through hoops
和根本不能接受手术，是不一样的 and not being able to get the procedure at all
四名法官表示，“罗诉韦德案”必须被推翻 Four justices have said Roe versus Wade must be overturned
我们只需再多一次机会 All it's going to take is one more
我只能希望布什总统能够再次当选 and I can only hope that President Bush gets reelected
克林顿总统就任
总统是否认为女性有选择权至关重要 It makes a difference whether the president believes in a woman's right to choose
而我相信 And I do
在克林顿夫妇周围 There was some momentum
有一些支持堕胎权利的势头 around the Clintons and support for abortion rights
伊丽莎白•纳什 古特马赫研究所
我很荣幸地提名鲁思•金斯伯格•马尔科姆为最高法院法官 I am proud to nominate Judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg to the Supreme Court
女性能作为决策者，是男女平等的要素 It is essential to woman's equality with man that she be the decision-maker
我很荣幸能提名斯蒂芬•布雷耶法官 I'm proud to nominate Judge Stephen Breyer
在美国最高法院任职 to serve on the United States Supreme Court
还有一些法案在联邦层面上悬而未决，以保护堕胎的权利 And there were bills pending at the federal level to protect access to abortion
克林顿团队已经开始系统性地对未出生的孩子发动战争 The Clinton team has begun to systematically wage war against unborn children
克里斯•史密斯 共和党国会议员
反对堕胎的人正在寻找阻止这一势头的方法 And abortion opponents were looking for a way to stop this momentum
所以他们想出了这个新主意 So they came up with this new idea
并在后来的堕胎问题上进行了研究 and they honed in on later abortion
他们特别提出了“分期堕胎”这个术语 Specifically they came up with the term "partial birth abortion"
大家部分留在这边，其他去另一边，好吗？不是所有人 Some of you stay on this side, some of you go on the other side, okay? Not everyone
试着分散开来，把标志尽可能放到更多地方 Try and spread out and get the signs as many places as possible
在亲生命运动中，“分期生育”像野火一样迅速蔓延 Partial birth took off like wildfire inside the pro-life movement
它使人的良心感到恐惧和震惊 It so horrified and shocked the conscience
剥夺了计划生育和堕胎医生的尊严 and stripped this veil of respectability from Planned Parenthood and the abortionists
太可怕了，我们要站在哪一边？ It's terrible. Which side of the fence are we gonna be on?
我们必须教育公众 We had to educate the public
我们是否要继续支持美国的儿童杀戮，并称之为选择？ Are we gonna continue to support child killing in America and call it choice?
我们制造了一个问题，并且把它强加给了美国 We made it an issue. We forced it on America
这是“分期堕胎” This is partial birth abortion
堕胎者用镊子夹住婴儿的腿 The abortionist grabs the live baby's legs with forceps
共和党人提出了分期堕胎法 The Republicans introduced the partial birth abortion law,
尽管没有这样的东西 even though there's no such thing
他们编造了这个词，这是一个策略 They made up the word and it was a strategy
真正挑战晚期堕胎何时被允许的问题 that really went to challenging the question of when late abortion would be permitted
有了这个主意，如果你能把可堕胎的时间越往早推 With the idea that, if you could push it earlier and earlier,
你就可以消除一些堕胎行为 you could eliminate a number of abortions
我们马上就知道这将是一个大问题 And we knew immediately that this was going to be a huge issue
堕胎倡导者声称，为了禁止分期堕胎 Abortion advocates are claiming that, by banning partial-birth abortion,
我们正在对“罗诉韦德案”发起直接攻击 we are mounting a direct attack on Roe versus Wade
对他们来说，从来没有不适合堕胎的时候 For them, there is never an instance when abortion is inappropriate
对他们来说，堕胎的权利是绝对的 For them, the right to abortion is absolute
无论什么时候，无论什么原因，不管什么方式 at whatever time, for whatever reason, and in whatever way,
都由妇女或堕胎医生选择 a woman or an abortionist chooses
90%的堕胎妇女都是在妊娠的前三个月 Ninety percent of women who have an abortion have it in the first trimester
这是绝大多数的女性 That's the vast majority of women
在20周内做的人比例更小 And then a smaller proportion have it before 20 weeks
在20到24周之间的，我们估计在1%左右 Between 20 and 24 weeks, we're at probably about one percent
随着孕期的增加，堕胎的比例就会越小 And then, as we get further along, we're getting to smaller and smaller numbers,
会达到最低点 exceedingly low numbers
所以大多数的堕胎都是在怀孕的前三个月 So the majority of abortions are in the first trimester
但是我们大部分时间都在谈论 But we spend most of our time talking about
发生在怀孕中期和晚期时的堕胎 abortions that happened in the second and third trimester
这是反堕胎运动的策略之一 And this is one of the strategies of the anti-choice movement
为什么我们称其为“分期堕胎” Why do we call something the partial-birth abortion,
实际上这不是医学术语 when really that's not a medical term
你总是追着你对手的弱点 You always go after your enemy where they're the weakest.
他们知道，一旦我们赢了，在第9个月 And they know that, once we win, in the ninth month,
剩下的纸牌屋就会崩溃 the rest of the card house comes crumbling down
我们破坏了他们的论点 We destroy their arguments
他们创造了一个故事 They created a narrative that
怀孕后期的女性杀死他们的孩子，因为 women late in pregnancies were killing their babies 'cause they,
你知道，她们想去健身房 you know, wanted to go to the gym instead
完全是子虚乌有的事 Totally false. Doesn't happen
但是没有30秒的声音片段来对抗图像 But there's no 30-second sound bite to counter that image
如果你感到这很冒犯，恭喜，你是有良心的
他们很擅长制造光影形象 They were very good at creating optics,
制造舆论来支持他们的观点 creating language that supported their point of view
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所以我们必须想办法在政治上挑战它 And so we had to figure out how to challenge it politically
我们能够把克林顿总统介绍给 And we were able to introduce President Clinton
那些将会受到法律影响的妇女 to women who would be affected by the law
那些很晚才堕胎的妇女，或者 Women who were losing pregnancies very late or
怀孕时发现胎儿畸形严重的妇女 finding themselves carrying a pregnancy with very severe fetal anomalies
早上好，感谢小组委员会的邀请 Good morning. I'd like to thank the subcommittee for inviting me here
我去做了7个月的常规超声波检查 I went in for a routine seven-month ultrasound
泰米•沃特斯 禁止分期堕胎听证会
他们说，“这看起来不错” They were saying, "This looks good. This looks good"
突然，他们变得非常安静 Then suddenly, they got really quiet
医生说，“你女儿没有眼睛，她的心脏…” The doctor said, "Your daughter has no eyes, and her heart
“其他的主要器官也在衰竭” and other major organs are also failing
“你的孩子将无法存活” And your child will not live"
我记得我只是看着窗外，我看不到任何人 I remember just looking out the window. I couldn't look at anybody
于是我的婆婆问，“我们要继续吗？她还要继续妊娠吗？” So my mother-in-law asked, "Do we go on? Does she have to go on?"
这个可怕的问题影响了上百个美国人 This terrible problem affects a few hundred Americans
每一年 every year,
他们迫切地想要自己的孩子 who desperately want their children,
他们正在努力建立家庭，并努力巩固他们的家庭 are trying to building families and are trying to strengthen their families
他们不应该成为一场更大的辩论中的棋子 And they should not become pawns in a larger debate
因此，我别无选择，只能否决该法案 And therefore I had no choice but to veto the bill
就在几分钟前，在我与这些家庭见面之前，我否决了它 I vetoed it just a few minutes ago before I met with these families
比尔•克林顿否决了它，但它真的传播开了 Bill Clinton vetoed it, but it really spread
我们开始看到这些法案的新版本 And we started to see new iterations of these bills,
使用略微不同的语言，以便承受法律上的挑战 using slightly different language, in order to withstand a legal challenge
在这个国家，允许牺牲儿童是可耻的 It's a shame that child sacrifice can be allowed in this country
我们因为发表和展示堕胎的真相而被逮捕 We are being arrested for speaking and showing the truth of abortion
我们需要禁止“分期堕胎” We need to ban partial-birth abortions
我相信禁止分期堕胎 I believe banning partial-birth abortions would be
是减少美国堕胎数量的积极步骤 a positive step toward reducing the number of abortions in America
我们能够让乔治•W•布什以这样的承诺当选 We were able to get George W. Bush elected with the promise that,
如果再有其他禁令，他就会通过并签署 if we got another ban, he'd pass it again and sign it
分期堕胎 禁令
他签署了联邦禁令，使之成为法律 And he signed the federal ban into law,
并将其升至最高法院 and it went to the Supreme Court
反堕胎派滚蛋了！ Anti-choice has got to go!
堕胎的问题摆在最高法院面前 The issue of abortion's before the Supreme Court
法官桑德拉•戴•奥康纳今早宣布，她将退休 Justice Sandra Day O'Connor announced this morning that she will retire
首席大法官威廉•伦奎斯特已过世 Chief Justice William Rehnquist has died
提名权是总统最重要的职责之一 The nomination power is one of the most serious responsibilities of a president
我将向最高法院提名罗伯茨法官 I will nominate Judge Roberts to the Supreme Court
首席大法官罗伯茨的同事 And Chief Justice Roberts will have as his colleague
将是联邦党人协会骄傲的一员 a proud member of The Federalist Society,
小山姆•阿利托法官 Judge Sam Alito, Jr.
今天，最高法院以5比4通过了一项里程碑意义的裁决 In a 5-4 landmark decision,
新当选的保守派法官多数支持在全国范围内 the Court's new conservative majority today upheld a nationwide ban
禁止一项被批评者称为“分期堕胎”的程序 on a procedure critics call partial-birth abortion
在法庭上，愤怒的大法官鲁思•巴德•金斯伯格 In court, an angry Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
用不同寻常的步骤大声朗读她的异议 took the unusual step of reading her dissent aloud
我强烈反对今天的意见 I strongly dissent from today's opinion
“分期堕胎”禁令只能被理解为 The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act cannot be understood
试图削弱“罗诉韦德案”中 as anything other than an effort to chip away
宣布的一项权利 at a right declared in Roe v. Wade
罗诉韦德案 Roe versus Wade
阻止了我们禁止堕胎 prevents us from prohibiting abortion
但它确实允许我们 But it does allow us,
允许国家做一些事情来保护生命 the states, to…do some things to protect life,
如果它们可以表明存在着令人信服的国家利益 if they can show there is a compelling state interest.
州长里克•佩里希望终止生殖健康医疗 Governor Rick Perry wanted to end access to reproductive health care
塞西尔•理查德斯 计划生育协会前主席
在共和党的领导下，由于立法机构不成比例 And because the legislature is so disproportionately led by the Republican party,
他们提出了堕胎限制，这是全国最极端的 they proposed abortion restrictions, which were the most extreme in the country
国会第二号法案就是一个很好的例子 House Bill 2 was a good example of these kinds of laws
这类法律在共和党控制的许多州都得到了通过 that were being passed in many states controlled by the Republicans
法律真正关注的是堕胎可以在哪里进行 Laws that really focused on where the abortion could be performed
以及对医生办公室或手术中心的规定 and regulations to either the doctor's office or a surgical center
感谢您致电西南妇女外科中心 Thank you for calling the Southwestern Women's Surgery Center
我是艾丽西娅，能帮你什么忙吗？ This is Alicia. How may I help you?
这就是所谓的陷阱法： This is what are known as TRAP laws:
对堕胎机构的针对性监管 Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers
这些法律的目的是 And the purpose of these laws is
尽可能地使提供堕胎服务变得困难 to make it as difficult as possible to provide abortion services,
从而禁止尽可能多的堕胎 prohibit as many abortions as you can,
让发生的手术尽可能的昂贵 make the ones that do occur as expensive as possible
他们所做的很明显 It's so obvious what they're doing
我的目标是，让堕胎在任何阶段都成为过去 My goal is to make abortion, at any stage, a thing of the paSt.
所以这些限制措施将导致 So these restrictions would shut down
德克萨斯州数十家妇女健康中心关闭 dozens of women's health centers all across Texas
这就是为什么参议员温迪•戴维斯 And that's why Senator Wendy Davis
决定站出来为妇女的权利而斗争 decided to stand up and fight for the rights of women
所以这个法案被提交到参议院 So this bill went to the Senate
但是，因为这是会议的最后一天，时间紧迫 But, because it was the final day of the session, the clock was ticking
这给了我一个阻挠议事的机会 And that gave me an opportunity for the filibuster
各位，我今天站在这里… Members, I'm rising on the floor today
这意味着我有大约13个小时的谈话 That meant I had about 13 hours of talking
来确保这项法案不会通过 to make sure that this bill did not pass
德克萨斯州规定你不能喝一口水 The rules in Texas say that you cannot have a sip of water,
你不能饮用任何东西 you cannot have anything to drink,
你不能靠在桌子上 you cannot lean on your desk
当然也不能离开地板去洗手间 and you certainly cannot leave the floor to go to the restroom
我脚上穿着一双跑鞋，带着一个导尿管袋 So I had a pair of running shoes on my feet and I had a catheter bag
那天早上大约6点钟，一位医生过来 A doctor had come over at about six o'clock that morning
插上一根导管，这样我就能熬过这一天了 and inserted a catheter so that I'd be able to make it through the day
温迪 • 戴维斯参议员必须坚持到午夜 Senator Wendy Davis must make it to midnight
特别会议到此结束 That is the end of the special session
实际上，她是在浪费时间，耗费钟点 Essentially she's wasting time, running out the clock
她是怎么做的？现在 The way she's doing that? Right now,
她正在读反对这项立法的德州妇女的信件 she's reading letters from Texas women who oppose this legislation
…为了让她们的声音被听到 …in order for their voices to be heard
-…告诉我，任何妊娠都将非常… - 而且冗长的演说迅速传播开 - …told me any pregnancy will be very…- And the filibuster went viral
她不仅是一位反对这项法案的女性 Not only was she a woman opposing the bill,
凯瑟琳•科尔伯特 生育权律师
而且是这个房间里仅有的几个女性之一 but she was one of the only women in the room
这是一个互联网时刻 It was an internet moment
奥巴马：奥斯汀 今夜会有特别的事情发生
人们把他们的孩子留给邻居照看 People had left their kids with their neighbors
然后开上几小时的车去到奥斯丁那里 and driven hours to Austin to be there
学生们离开了他们的大学校园 Students had left their college campuses
来到奥斯丁，聆听温迪的长篇大论 and came to Austin to hear Wendy filibuster
这些德州人依赖少数的... These are Texans who relied on the minority
我是德克萨斯人 I'm a Texan
从来没见过像我们在那里看到的那种激进主义浪潮 Never seen the outpouring of activism like we saw there
你简直进不了议会大厦 You literally could not get in the capitol
所有走廊都是人，每个房间都满了 Every annex was full, every room was full
这是非同寻常的 It was extraordinary
她做出的另一个裁决是，如果有… …another ruling she made was if there was a
大约在午夜前的15分钟 And about 15 minutes before midnight,
程序性的规则被打破了 procedural rules of order were broken
第三… …and the third
为了结束我的冗长演说 in order to bring my filibuster to an end
在场的人都知道，他们违反规定 And the people who were there understood that rules were being broken
是为了让反对法案的人禁声 in order to silence opposition to a bill
在与参议员协商之后… After consultation with the parliamentarian and after
而且他们已经受够了 And they'd had enough
…被采取，并维持 …well taken and is sustained
扯淡！ Bullshit!
主席承认参议员... The chair recognizes Senator
让她说！让她说！让她说！ Let her speak! Let her speak! Let her speak!
温迪！温迪！温迪！温迪！ Wendy! Wendy! Wendy! Wendy!
当他们开始尖叫时 And as they began to scream,
走廊里的每个人都开始尖叫 everyone up and down the hallways began to scream,
圆形大厅的每一层，以及国会大厦外的草坪上 and at every level of the rotunda and outside on the capitol lawn
我可以真切地感受到 And I could literally feel
他们的声音和能量的振动 the vibration of their voices and their energy
还有他们脚步声的冲击 and the pounding of their feet
请保持秩序，我们正在投票中 If I can have order. We are in the middle of a vote
秘书已经开始投票了 The secretary has started the vote
它拖延了足够的时间 It ate up enough of the clock
最后的投票直到12:03还没完成 that the final vote wasn't taken until 12:03
众位，现在已经是午夜了，所以… Members, it's now past midnight. And so…
这也被称为“人民阻挠议事”，确实如此 And it became known as the people's filibuster. Rightly so
这是参议员温迪•戴维斯的原话，好吗？ This is straight from Senator Wendy Davis, okay?
等会儿再鼓掌 Hold your applause
首先，“我爱你们”… First, I love you guys. Okay?
我们也爱你，温迪！ We love you, too, Wendy!
“因此，副州长同意5号禁令已死” "So the lieutenant governor has agreed that SB-5 is dead"
前几天在参议院阻挠议事的那个女人 The woman who filibustered the Senate the other day,
她出生在艰难的环境中 she was born into difficult circumstances
她是一个单身女人的女儿 She's the daughter of a single woman
她自己也是个十几岁的母亲 She was a teenage mother herself
她最终从哈佛法学院毕业 She managed to eventually graduate from Harvard Law School
并在德州参议院任职 and serve in the Texas Senate
不幸的是，她没有从自己的例子中吸取教训 It's unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example
每个人都必须有机会充分发挥自己的潜能 that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential
每一个生命都很重要 and that every life matters
我们成功地扼杀了这个法案 We had successfully killed the bill
但是几天之内我们就被召回了 But we were called right back within a few days
然而，这一次没办法阻挠议事 And, of course, this time there was no way to filibuster
♪ 所有的婴儿都到哪里去了？♪ Where have all the babies gone?
♪我为每一个人祈祷天堂♪ I pray to heaven for every one
准备好再做一次 Get ready to do it all again
州长里克•佩里在今晚早些时候召开了一次特别会议 Governor Rick Perry called a special session early this evening
有关堕胎程序，机构，设施，机构处罚的规定
我们讨论了选择权问题 We talked about the choice
你认为如果母亲和婴儿对话，说 Do you think if the mother had a conversation with the baby and said,
“你知道，现在把你生下来真的不太方便” "You know, this just isn't really convenient to give birth to you right now
“你介意死吗？” Do you mind dying?"
- 我再也受不了了！ I can't take it anymore!
- 我认为... - 简直强词夺理！ - I think… - That was very offensive!
我想婴儿会说... I think that baby would say...
- 这是对女性的人身攻击！ This is an assault on women!
我不生那些老乡的气，我为她祈祷 I don't get mad with those folks. I pray for her
- 你辜负了德克萨斯！ You are failing Texas!
再过几分钟 In just a few moments,
我们要投票表决一项法案 we are going to vote on a bill
这将使我们产生深刻的分歧 that has deeply and profoundly divided us
将我们以党派划分… Separating us by political party
以性别 by gender
以生活经历... by life experience
以维系我们的信仰 by what our religious beliefs bind us to
今生都不能！ Not in this life!
我们都相信人生的美丽和奇迹 We all believe in the beauty and the wonder that is human life
但我也相信在这里的女性 But I also believe that women already here
都是美丽的 are beautiful
她们应该活下去 And that they deserve to live,
她们应该决定自己生活的方向 they deserve to determine the direction of their lives,
她们应该被当作是完整的人 they deserve to be recognized as full people
完全有能力做出艰难的决定 fully capable of making difficult decisions
在她们的家人，她们的医生和上帝的帮助下 with the help of their family, their doctor and their God
温迪！温迪！温迪！温迪！ Wendy! Wendy! Wendy! Wendy!
任何女人都不应该被别人评判 No woman should be judged by someone else,
被那些相信他们会做出不同决定人 someone who believes they would have made a different decision
任何女人都不应该被别人评判 No woman should be judged by someone else,
因为这些决定从来都不容易 because these decisions are never ever easy
它们既不是随意的，也不是草率的 They're not made casually or quickly
我们这些在参议院的人，应该 And those of us in the Senate should refuse
拒绝随意或迅速地做出这个决定 to make this decision casually or quickly
因为关乎德州未来的斗争才刚刚开始 Because the fight for the future of Texas is just beginning
谢谢，总统先生，谢谢各位 Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, members
现在有19票赞成，11票反对，国会法案二最终通过 There being 19 ayes and 11 nays, House Bill 2 is finally passed
我们不会回去！我们不会回去！ We won't go back! We won't go back!
提高本州妇女的护理质量是我们的责任 It is our responsibility to improve the quality of care for women in the state
当然，一直以来都有人认为 Of course, the argument was made all along that
这样做是为了妇女的健康 somehow this is being done in the interests of women's health
尽管这种说法遭到了令人难以置信的科学反驳 And in spite of incredible scientific pushback to that statement,
国会法案二通过 House Bill 2 passed
耻辱！耻辱！耻辱！ Shame! Shame! Shame!
这项法律生效后，本州半数以上的堕胎诊所关闭了 The law went into effect and over half of our abortion clinics in the state closed
我们从41个诊所变成了19个 We went from 41 clinics to 19
这是法律实施的结果 as a consequence of the implementation of the law
在德克萨斯州中部，已经一家诊所都没有了 In central Texas, there were no clinics left open
这很让人泄气 And that was pretty demoralizing
但确实发生了一些非常重要的事情 But there was something really important that had happened
从国家层面唤醒了我们，对于女性受到现实侵犯的认识 We as a state woke up to the reality of an assault on women
我们清醒地意识到我们的力量 We woke up to the reality of our power
这是一种持续壮大的力量 And it's a power that has continued to grow
这是近十年来的第一起重大堕胎案件 The first major abortion case in almost a decade
它以德州的一个案例为中心，该案已经迫使诊所关闭 It centers on a case in Texas that has already forced clinics to close
并可能迫使更多的诊所关闭 and could force even more to close down as well
利害关系是巨大的，不仅是对德州的女性而言 The stakes are huge. And they're not just huge for Texas women
对于全国各地的女性来说都是利害巨大 They're huge for women all over the country
反选择就是反女人！ Anti-choice! Anti-women!
如果法庭确认德州的法律 If the Court affirms the law in Texas,
我毫不怀疑其他州会立即效仿 I have no doubt that other states will immediately follow suit
所以很多女性将不再有堕胎的机会 And so many women will no longer have access to abortion care
这就像一个完美的对照实验，不是吗？ It's almost like a perfect controlled experiment, isn't it?
就好像你让法律生效，12家诊所关门 It's like you put the law into effect, twelve clinics closed
把法律从事实中抽离，他们重新开放 To take the law out of the fact, they reopen
这是绝对正确的… That's absolutely correct
我参加了辩论，我被只有一位女性法官的法庭 I went to the argument, and I was struck by the difference
和有三位女性法官的法庭之间的差异所震惊 between a Court with one female justice and a Court with three
我能承受这个负担吗？ Can I walk through the burden?
为了接受两天的治疗，她不得不跋涉200英里 She has to travel 200 miles to get two days of treatment
有多少女性得走上100英里以上 How many women are located over 100 miles
女人们可以互相强加给对方观点 The women could reinforce each other's viewpoints
利益和负担之间有某种关联，不是吗？ There has to some tie between benefit and burden, doesn't there?
我认为他们非常善于，抛开所有这些似是而非的论点 I think they were very good at throwing aside all of these specious arguments,
使其看上去像是国家在真正关心妇女 that the state was making that really all they cared about was women
这对ASC（日间手术中心）和准入特权都有好处 There are benefits for the ASC and admitting-privileges
好处是什么… 有什么证据… What is the benefit…What evidence is there
就是说，你知道，现在的情况是 Just said, You know, what's going on here
你是在让女性更难做出自己的选择… is you are making it more difficult for women to exercise their choice
这是风险最低的程序之一 This is one of the lowest-risk procedures
我们将尊重她的决定 …and we are going to respect her decision
这项法律只针对堕胎 …this law was targeted at abortion only
许多手术的风险要大得多： …many procedures are much higher risk:
结肠镜，吸脂术，我们还可以继续 colonoscopies, liposuctions We could go on and on
我必须告诉你们，他们接受了这个论点 And I have to tell you, they took over that argument
这是关于，一个女人 What it's about is that a woman has
有为自己做出选择的基本权利 a fundamental right to make this choice for herself
今天，最高法院废除了德州的一项法律 Today the Supreme Court struck down a Texas law
该法对诊所和医生施加了严格的要求 that imposed strict requirements on clinics and doctors,
认为这些限制给宪法赋予的堕胎权带来了不必要的负担 finding those limits place an undue burden on the constitutional right to abortion
对我来说，这个决定的亮点是 For me, the highlight of that decision was
大法官们将实际的医学和科学结合起来 the justices' incorporation of actual medicine and science
包括接生在内的 很多医疗程序 具有重大风险
我们看到一个关于堕胎的决策，说 We've seen a decision about abortion that says,
“如果你要提出要求 "If you're going to make a claim,
这个要求必须是准确符合事实的” the claim must be factually accurate"
但事实是 But the reality is
法官的任命是高度政治化的 that the appointing of our justices is highly political
因此，在任何时候，法院的平衡都会发生变化 And so, at any time, the balance of the Court can change
下一次的决定可能会有所不同 And the decision may be different next time
真相是，堕胎的并发症很少见，也很少会有危险
最高法院在赫勒斯泰特的判决 The Supreme Court decision in Hellerstedt
再一次激发了亲生命派人士的积极性 motivated pro-life people, reinforced, once again,
卡罗尔·特拜斯 国家生命权利会主席
如果我们想要改变法律，我们必须改变最高法院 that if we want to change the laws, we have to change the Supreme Court
唐纳德•特朗普在纽约与福音派教徒骨干私下会面 Donald Trump meeting privately in New York with leading evangelicals
唐纳德•特朗普来了，进行了一次谈话 Donald Trump came and had a conversation
托尼•帕金斯 家庭研究协会主席
现在我们在任何事情上都没有一致 Now we don't agree on everything
多年来，我一直致力于全国大选 I've been working on national elections for a number of years
并且一直在努力巩固保守的福音派信徒 and there's always been an effort to try to consolidate conservative evangelicals
对于任何共和党候选人来说，这都是一个关键的投票区 It is a critical voting block for any Republican candidate
要想在11月赢得大选，特朗普需要75% To win in November, Donald Trump needs 75,
甚至80%的福音派教徒 maybe even 80 percent of evangelicals
我们的目标很简单 Our goals are very simple
这是为了增进我们对公共政策和整个文化的信仰 It is to advance faith in public policy and in our culture as a whole,
从基督教的世界观的角度来说 from a Christian world view
我们是绝对的基督徒 We are unapologetically Christian
福音派一直受到奥巴马政府的打击 Evangelicals have been under constant attack by the Obama administration
坦白地说，他们已经厌倦了 And quite frankly, they're tired of it
在奥巴马的领导下，政府采取了强硬手段 And under Barack Obama, this heavy hand of government tried
试图迫使社会接受堕胎，和重新定义婚姻等问题 to force society to accept things like abortion and the redefinition of marriage
这些事情与自然背道而驰 These things run counter to nature
它们违背了上帝的道德法则，所以是肉眼可见的倒退 They run counter to the moral law of God. And so what you saw is pushback
显然，这里没有太多选择 Obviously, there's not many choices here
选择是在跟希拉里•克林顿之间 The choice is between Hillary Clinton,
我们知道她将为美国带来什么 and we know exactly what she will provide to America
或者还是唐纳德•特朗普 Or we have Donald Trump
他被认为是最不虔诚的候选人 He's considered the least religious of the candidates
如果伊万卡不是我女儿，也许我会和她约会 If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her
你知道性侵犯者之类的事 You know about sexual predators and things like that
- 你是之一！ - 好吧，我不会那样说的 - You are one! - All right, wasn't gonna say that
我很赞成亲选择派，我只是相信选择 I'm very pro-choice. I just believe in choice
福音派基督徒还没有完全同意 Evangelical Christians aren't fully on board yet
有些人说，他们可能会在11月回家 Some say they may sit home come November
你不能忽视这个选区 You cannot ignore this constituency
但请记住，老布什是从亲选择派 But remember, George H•W•Bush was pro-choice,
变成了亲生命派的 became pro-life
布什先生有一些值得思考 Mr. Bush has something to think about
人的生命是宝贵的，已出生或未出生的 Human life is precious, born or unborn
罗纳德•里根在60年代末签署了美国最自由的堕胎法 Ronald Reagan signed the most liberal abortion law in America in the late '60s,
到了1980年，他成了反堕胎的英雄 and was a pro-life hero by 1980
我认为，当你中断怀孕时，你正在剥夺一个人的生命 I think when you interrupt the pregnancy, you're taking a human life
所以唐纳德•特朗普要做的就是，像之前那些候选人一样 So all Donald Trump has to do is, as those prior nominees did,
弄清楚… make it clear…
我们一起参加了一场的全国性运动 We came together in a national crusade
旨在让美国再次伟大 to make America great again
并且要有一个新的开始 And to make a new beginning
弄清楚，“我改变了我的观念” Make it clear, "I changed my views"
我将要任命的法官，将会是亲生命派的 The justices that I'm going to appoint will be pro-life
亲生命派的选民对共和党的胜利绝对至关重要 The pro-life constituency is absolutely essential for a Republican victory
唐纳德•J•特朗普 Donald J. Trump
要弄清楚，如果他成为总统，他将为这些事情而奋斗 Make it clear that if he becomes president, he'll fight for those things
这不仅仅是关于“罗诉韦德案” It's not only about Roe v. Wade
这是关于美国正在发生的事情 It is about what's happening right now in America
很多州都在 So many states are putting
对妇女实施非常严格的规定 very stringent regulations on women that
阻止她们做出这种选择… block them from exercising that choice
我相信，让唐纳德•特朗普赢得亲生命团体支持的 I believe what sold the pro-life community on Donald Trump
这是在拉斯维加斯的最后一场辩论 was the final debate in Las Vegas
我将捍卫“罗诉韦德案” I will defend Roe v. Wade,
我将捍卫妇女为自己健康做决定的权利 and I will defend women's rights to make their own health care decisions
我在观众席中，我在看着他… I was in the audience. I was watching him
你们的分歧...一个女人堕胎的权利？ …which divides you... a woman's right to abortion?
当他开始进入讨论 And when he went into a discussion
分期堕胎，晚期堕胎… of partial-birth abortion, late-term abortion
如果按照希拉里的说法，在第9个月 If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month,
你可以把婴儿从母亲的子宫里扯出来… you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother….
我知道那些是唐纳德•特朗普的话 I knew those were Donald Trump's words
现在，你可以说这没问题 Now, you can say that that's okay
这不是一些演讲稿撰写人的原话 Those were not the words of some speechwriter
对我来说这不太好 It's not okay with me
因为根据她所说的 Because based on what she's saying
很明显，是特朗普自己当时在说这话 It was clearly Trump speaking at that moment
你可以把婴儿从子宫里取出来，在第9个月 You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb, in the ninth month,
在最后一天！这是不可接受的 on the final day! And that's not acceptable
当他这么做的时候 And when he did that,
我相信他与全国各地的亲生命派达成了协议 I believe he sealed the deal with pro-lifers across the country
我会尽我所能 And will, to the best of my ability,
“维护，保护，捍卫” "…preserve, protect, and defend"
维护，保护，捍卫 preserve, protect, and defend
“美国的宪法” "the Constitution of the United States"
美国的宪法 the Constitution of the United States
- “上帝保佑我” - 上帝保佑我 - "So help me God" - So help me God
恭喜你，总统先生 Congratulations, Mr. President
当我成为一名医生时 When I became a physician,
我发誓要为所有有需要的病人 the oath that I took was that I was gonna provide
提供最好的医疗服务 the best medical care for all patients who needed it
病人也需要堕胎 And patients need access to abortions
她们需要得到有尊严和尊重的照顾 And they need care delivered to them with dignity and respect
好了，准备好了吗？ All right, you ready?
所以，如果这意味着坐飞机或开车数百英里 So if that means getting on planes or driving hundreds of miles,
我将继续这样做，因为这是现在需要的 I'm going to continue to do that, because that's what's needed right now
女性的生活建立在 Women have built their lives
她们对怀孕做出决定的能力上 around the ability to make decisions about pregnancy
所以，我们必须确保她们的权利得到保护 So, we have to make sure that their right is protected
我们必须保持警惕 And we have to remain vigilant
因为人们非常担心 Because there is a very real concern
特朗普政府将任命反堕胎法官 that the Trump administration is going to appoint anti-abortion judges
特朗普总统宣布了近12名联邦下级法院新的候选人 President Trump announced nearly a dozen new nominees for the lower federal courts
数百个席位将由本届政府通过司法系统填补 Hundreds of seats are going to be filled by this administration throughout the judicial system
这些人将以他们的余生服务 These people will be serving for the rest of their lives
这是终身的，是几代人对美国法律的影响 It's life term. It's generations of impact on American law
上诉法院，巡回法院的法官… The Court of Appeals, circuit judges
无论是地区法官... whether it be district judges
当你真正思考我们未来的道路时 When you really think about the way we're going,
从现在开始，挑选好的法官十分重要，即使是在地区一级 years from now, picking good judges even at the district level is extremely important
这就是我们要如何结束这一切，来推翻“罗诉韦德案” And that's how we're going to finish this to overturn Roe vs. Wade
今天我要履行另一个承诺 Today I am keeping another promise,
提名尼尔•戈萨奇为美国最高法院法官 by nominating Judge Neil Gorsuch to the United States Supreme Court
我们推出了强有力的亲生命法案 We're putting out strong pro-life bills and so,
最终，最高法院将在这个问题上进行权衡 eventually,the Supreme Court will weigh in on the issue
我不知道需要多长时间 I don't know how long it will take
推翻“罗诉韦德案”，或将被推翻 to overturn Roe v. Wade, or when it will be overturned
我毫不怀疑会是这样 I have no doubt it will be
全国各地 All across the nation,
生命再次在美国获得胜利 life is winning again in America
撤销计划生育拨款
上帝的旨意，特朗普的人性法律
最高法院的一个重要时刻 In a monumental moment for the Supreme Court,
大法官安东尼•肯尼迪即将从法院退休 Justice Anthony Kennedy is retiring from the Court
左右结果的决定性投票正在减少 The crucial swing vote is now stepping down
特朗普总统将有机会为一代人塑造这个法庭 and President Trump will get the chance to shape this Court for a generation
这是一个给国家重建生命文化的机会 This is an opportunity to restore a culture of life in this country
这是一个历史性的时刻 This is a historic moment
我们有机会拿下“罗诉韦德案” And we have a chance to take down Roe v. Wade
我认为这会增加总统的支持率 I think this supercharges the president's base
十分之七的福音派选民说 Seven out of ten of his evangelical voters said that
最高法院对他们的日常生活有影响 the Supreme Court has an effect on their daily lives
我认为他应该提名一个 And I think he should put forth a candidate that is
在人类生命神圣不可侵犯的方面，无可挑剔的候选人 above reproach on this issue of the sanctity of human life
我认为罗案可以被推翻 And I think Roe can be overturned
我相信它可以被推翻，可以回到从前 I do believe it could be overturned and I think it goes back to the states
我认为各州将决定采取什么样的政策 And I think that the states will decide what policies to handle
我认为…我们将是一个以亲生命为主的国家 And I think…we will be a predominantly pro-life nation
你会看到20个州 You're gonna see 20 states
通过法律禁止堕胎 pass laws banning abortion outright
因为他们知道 Because they know
现在最高法院将会有5票推翻“罗诉韦德案” that there are now going to be five votes on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade
如果“罗诉韦德案”被最高法院推翻 If Roe v. Wade is overturned by the Supreme Court,
我们会看到一些州说堕胎是不允许的 we will see some states that will say abortion is not allowed,
有些州可能… there will be some states that are going to
根本不会对堕胎设置太多限制 probably not place many limits on abortion at all,
但我们不会停止，我们会继续工作 but we are not going to stop. We will keep working
保护未出生的婴儿 to protect the unborn babies
不管罗案是否被推翻，其赋予的权利 Whether or not Roe is overturned, the rights granted by Roe
对于许多女性来说，已经几乎消失了 are almost gone for many women already
所以，如果医生不能完成手术 So, if doctors can't perform the procedure,
或者诊所的不能营业的话… or clinics can't keep their doors open
那我们还剩什么呢？ Then what are we left with?